she was doing her job, if the idoit mall want to be cops wants to press charges the officer has no choice but to arrest, maybe we should be glad we have officers who know the law and apply it, if you ask me the .42 cents should be giving to the uneducated want a be mall officer and he couls spent it on some commom sence, in this case the police officer tried to explain and end the problem, but no "I am mall securty i want to press charges" mall idoits thats who you need to write about... right on Lori

Good letter from this officers mother. This councilman was totally out of line with his statements. All he had to do was talk to the city manager or someone from NPD and they would have been able to explain exactly what transpired on that call.

I would hope that the mayor and the other council members take Mr Wilkomm to task for his actions.

There is so much drama in Naples any more. Fifty years ago you would not see this kind of things happening. I guess as time goes on and the city grows these kind of things will happen.

I speak these this because I know. If you do not believe me,find some of the older residents of Naples and ask. I am sure they would be more than happy to tell you the same things.

With progress come change and it is not allway's for the good.

Pretty sure the cop could've just issued the guy a notice to appear.

She did her job, he is an illegal, she did a great job in fact getting this idiot of the street. Any one disagree? There is local proof in Ft. Myers that is enough reason for the arrest.

"But we cannot forget that the police hold the power to forever change someone's life, and every precaution should be taken to ensure that that power is not perceived to be mis-used so that the public will continue to have a deep, abiding faith and trust in its local law enforcement officers."

I hope every officer and prosecutor in this city, county, state and country takes Councilman Willkomm's above statement to heart before making their next arrest or filing their next charges. An innocent individual who has never been in any trouble with the law can have his life destroyed both emotionally and financially by your careless actions.

From the tone of Mr. Bill's response, he feels that a police officer should be able to tell a crime victim their complaint is not worthy of the officers time.

Based on the officers mothers e-mail, they arrest prople for theft frim such high end establishments as Claires. For anyone without young daughters this is a store that sells junk jewelry which costs a few bucks each on average.

Is this the standard the police should use Mr. Bill? Based on the salary and other related costs only people that steal more than the full cost of dealing with them should be arrested.

Your words were not only unprofessional but were outright dumb. I have no doubt the Naples Police deal with many people they could arrest where some other action is done. I'm also sure that if you had bothered to just ask, instead of shoot off your mouth, you could have learned this.

Wilkomm - you are a jerk. City council does not write Florida statutes. Complain to the mall management, they pressed charges. Surely you aren't advocating that a police officer ignore a citizen complaint?
This LEO had the lousy luck to receive this stupid call. What is her mistake? When and where did you receive your law enforcement training again? You clearly don't respect the police department since you seem to think laws can be ignored via "policy changes" at the request of city council.

i can't believe we're still talking about this...

If this police officer is on leave because her feelings were hurt, I wonder how she would do in the streets of LA and NY? Only in Naples would you have a silly arrest and have your mother defend your arrest. What a waste of public dollars to enforce a law where charges will be dropped for a stupid arrest.

This is B.S. The cop was doing her job and doing it correctly if you ask me. The mall rent-a-cop wanted to press charges so she did it. She couldn't issue a notice to appear because the guy was illegal and couldn't provide proper ID to verify his address if you'd read the blasted article before spouting off.

If she would have just blown it off all you blow hards would have been on here crucifying her for not doing her job and "serving the public".

I say kudos to the officer for doing a fine job. I hope she stays on the force.

So she arrested him because she "felt" or had an "instinct" that something was amiss about the guy??? I thought probable cause (not just a "feeling") was required before an arrest could be made.

What's a "thef" case?

mom, stay out of it. but if you cant, dont leave a paper trail.
now you have made a joke of her.

wilkomm was the one who wanted to ban smoking on the beach, council comando.

USDfender....

I agree completly....only in Naples

etcetc, you nailed this situation with your comments. Thanks.

I don't think the officer's mother "made a joke out of her" but frankly, NPD is a mess and the LEO may well find herself being railroaded because politics. I hope not. Wikcomm is out of line here. The event is "trivial" but there were other circumstances which put it into another light. If she had acted differently perhaps we would have had another unfortunate incident as happened in Ft. Myers. We won't know. The path not taken is not easily discerned.

NDN, hope you are happy that people are speaking out on this subject as you chided bloggers about not commenting enough in your recent editorial.

How many postings do you feel this subject deserves, oh great NDN editorial board? Please let us know so we can oblige.

Willkommy still sounds like an idiot. The Naples city police are not his personal security force. They have to enforce the law without bias and it sounds like this police officer did so. Willkommy, Naples is not Moscow of the Eighties. I am happy that I do not have to go into the City of Naples for anything anymore.

#13 surveygator, I absolutely agree with your comment 100%.Thank you.

Way to go officer!!! Keep up the good work. Keep doing your job!!!!
Councilwoman Wilkommen: Resign immediately. What a joke you are. A person does their job and you rip them for it? Where is your e-mail ripping the idiot who was stealing??? Again, more self serving publicity for a politician. What a joke.....

I'm not a Deputy but could a Deputy please respond to the blogs about the exact procedure for not witnessing a misdemeanor in their presence. This was not a retail store. Was it a legal arrest based based on what the law will allow and why exactly did the D.A.'s office not pursue this. What do you think about the arrest and if it was lawful...what does the law say about not observing a small crime like this in their presence.

i dont know where this officer and her mother came from, how they were raised or where they grew up but i know for a fact that either of my parents would never in a million years have the audacity to stick their nose in my business or where it didnt belong.

shame on YOU Lori.

A notice to appear could have been issued in this instance and no arrest was necessary. Tax dollars at work in Naples as usual. She got lucky on the immigration call but percentages were on here side this being South Florida. She screwed up.

Hold him for ICE and deport him.

Yes with all of your good intention by trying to defend your daughter. I am afraid all you have done was to add fuel to a burning fire for the people to make resentful remarks towards your daughter.

But Naples Daily News knew what they were doing by printing this story.They are just as guilty.

Why is this being posted? The mother opens her email by saying "I am writing not to defend my daughter’s actions or to have my words publicly viewed,"
Councilman, did you choose to release this to the press? Please tell us why. If you did release it I feel you now owe another apology.
Also, your original letter had a much different tone. Why? This email certainly seems written by a different person.

This whole situation is crappy from all angles.

1. The mall security is now the laughing stock of Naples for pressing charges for a man stealing less than a dollar from the mall fountain. How they could of avoided it: Kick the guy out of the mall and give him a trespass warning.

2. The LEO who made the arrest is at the center of another controversy involving the local police. How she could have avoided that: Give the guy a notice to appear.

3. Councilman Willkomm has gained the love and down right disgust with just a few keystrokes. How he could have avoided the disgust: Place blame where blame is due - On the "thief" and mall security. Mention that a notice of appear was more appropriate, rather than complete ridicule, would have made his statement golden.

4. The "Thief" is a local celebrity now being held by ICE. How he could of avoided that: Stayed in Hungary.

Ms. Joyce...says "I am writing not to defend my daughter’s actions or to have my words publicly viewed...", yes you are Ms. Joyce. Why would you write such a statement? You have every right to be very proud of your daughter, and to defend you daughter in public. That statement just detracts from an otherwise fine letter.

Didn't the States Attorney drop the "case"?...at a minimum your daughter should have called her Supervisor after "feeling frustrated for such a trivial matter"...that's where she blew it. As for Mall Security & Mgmt., they represent flawed gene pools.

Your daughter is empowered to carry a gun and other weapons and as has been pointed out by Bill Wilkomm, "the police hold the power to forever change someone's life, and every precaution should be taken to ensure that that power is not perceived to be mis-used so that the public will continue to have a deep, abiding faith and trust in its local law enforcement."

She was not justified, nor did she have to make the arrest she did. The idea that she had a hunch that the man was an illegal alien, is a red herring. If she was acting on hunches that someone was an illegal alien, your daughtr would be arresting hundreds of people every single day in Naples and Bonita.

Smoke screens and red herrings do this situation no good. The bottom line is that there was abuse of police power, and Americans don't like abuse of police power.

But you have every right to be proud of your daughter and I hope she learned a good lesson that will forever benefit her career in a very positive way; it's an extreemly valuable lesson in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Personally I have always supported strong law enforcement and have several relatives who are in the brotherhood and sisterhood; we trust and invest them with tremendous power.

Thank you for your letter to Bill and partisapating in this issue.

Willkomm didn't need to "release" Lori's email to the NDN, once her email went to Willkomm it became Public Record. Sunshine Law. All NDN needs to do is call the Clerk's office and request any email communications regarding the $.42 theif and her email would be sent right to them.

#29 Dinnaples, I thought the same thing about his letter, I believe he had someone else write it for him. He didn't even call anyone "breathtakinly dumb". I just called the NDN to let them know how upset I was about them publishing this letter from the officers mother, all they did was add fuel to the fire in order to keep the story going.The officers mother is not a public figure and her letter to Mr. Willkomm was a private matter. It should of been keep private. I guaranteee he released this letter to the NDN just to keep his name in the paper.

Guess what Mr. Bill if you thought people were going to think you are great councilman and defender of taxpayers money, that apparently you think the NPD is wasting, well you thought wrong, your e-mails just lets us know what type of idiot you really are.
To the officers mother Ms Joyce, I dont know your daughter personally but I hear she is a good officer,she is well liked and she takes her job seriously, good job raising her.

Everyone has the right to their opinion and to express that opinion about the situation with the arrest. Cops make judgment calls every day. What the officer did was a judgment call. So what!! If the guy had not taken 42 cents out of the fountain, the officer would not have had any judgment call to make. Don't go taking responsibility off the guy who is responsible for the entire episode. You break the law, you suffer whatever legal consequences come your way. It's not like the guy was wrongfully accused. He admitted what he did.

As for the councilman's e-mail to Bill Moss, what a shame the man can't communicate on an adult level. Maybe he'll read Mayor Barnett's response and pick up a few tips.

After read both letters, I am total understand both side. But, the arrest report state " under arrested
for stealing 42 cents ". In the arrested report there is nothing mention about immigration status.
secondly, this is twenty first century, the police
are not allow to arrest people on the gut feeling or on a hunt. You need fact or proper cause to
hold or arrest people.

Where is this thief from? HUNGARY,,, Yes I know he was HUNGRY thats why he stole 42 cents! Now where is he from? HUNGARY I tell you! Yes I know he was HUNGRY.....

OK, some observatons: #5 How does the officer write a notice to appear when the guy has no I.D? #6 Wasn't her choice on the .42 cents, mall pressed charges, guy had NO I.D., she had no choice!#8 ur an idiot, you want the officers to use selective arrest procedures? #11 Immigration took this guy, No I.D. got it? #13 You are right on!#14 Read the above maybe you'll get a clue!#26 Please how you issue a notice to appear when the suspect had NO I.D? Geez!#35 Was arrested because Mall pressed charges, and one more time the .42 cent idiot had no I.D., NDN of course didn't headline the facts correctly!

Brattgirl,

IS that what happened? Or did Willkomm himself send it over? Please don't assume what might have happened.

I have a great idea, lets all turn this ugly story around and end it once and for all. Lets all mail a check to the Make a Wish foundation of South Florida for $10.42 cents. I will be the first to do it. $10 from each of us and .42 cents on behalf of the Coastland Center Mall Security to make up for the wish some little kid lost when this man took the money from the fountain.

Ms. Joyce,

Though I understand your need to defend your daughter, at her age an in her position of authority she needs to defend herself, not leave town.

She is far too young and new to this position to take it personally. She has 20 something years before a possible retirement. In her position she will be second guessed and critiqued the rest of her career. Unfortunately it comes with the job. Accept it or get out of this line of work.

And Ms. Joyce, she made the call, let her speak for herself.

Rockford: Can you make them come back in Oct./Nov? August is just too early!

#42, Mr. Wilkhomm sent the response to Ms. Joyce, and copied Jeff Lytle on his response, so much for privacy!

officer:"give me the 42 cents"
the officer hands the 42 cents to the mall security
and escorts the petty thief to the patrol car,gives him a ride to Fleishman Park,gives him a
verbal warning,hinting that deportation would result in any future arrest and advises him not return to the mall.case closed

I've also embarrassed my children by sticking up for them when they were capable of doing it themselves. I understand, as will most mothers, why the letter was sent. Perhaps we should all stop commenting and make this non-story die a natural death.
I'll start...

#5 Posted by Smoke_Diver

She couldn't issue a notice to appear because Laszlo Mujzer had no valid identification.
So he can say he is George Washington and then never be seen again?
He said his correct name, and it sent up red flags with ICE and thats how they verified who he was and through prints.

If you have no valid ID and can't prove who you say you are, then you are going to jail if you commit a crime, even a 42 cent one sadly.
If he had some sort of ID and was NOT wanted with ICE they would've have given him a nice notice to appear and a court date.

If anything this should be proof positive to always have some sort of idenification with you at all times.

Hey NDN: you got scooped!!! Maybe if your myopic lense was not focused on NPD, you would have caught this little item: http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readart...

Same way in Lee County, apparently. If you don't have ID and your information cannot be confirmed and the store wants to press charges, off to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

As for the mother's e-mail. Most, if not all, government Web sites say if you don't want it let out, then don't e-mail. A concern I have is that the mother apparently had information that regular citizens and even the media would not have had access to. That concerns me more than the officer making the arrest, but she was telling her mother everything. Please, LEOs, learn to not give information out unless it is required by law -- not even to family. This mother saying this information could get her daughter in trouble for racial profiling possibly. If not getting her into trouble for talking about "business." No matter the officer's reasoning, it was a good arrest. The gut feeling has nothing to do with it and never should have been brought out.

As we both know, the citizens of Naples want the laws enforced, but they want them enforced with good judgment and common sense.""

Bravo Bill -- you have my vote!!

After reading #50's post, I think I am ready to go the to media with our family's story regarding the Collier County Sheriff's Department. I will go to NBC-2 News. I have been told by everyone we know to go there. We have been told that WINK and the NDN is controlled by the Collier County Sheriff's Department, and if we want the truth, told go to NBC-2 News. When my husband told someone in a very high ranking position in our community what has happened to our family because of the Collier County Sheriff's Department, she asked immediately "Why haven'tyou gone to the press with this?" We asked, "Who should we go to?" She said,NBC-2 News . . . they are the only ones who tell the truth and have not been bought off by the Collier County Sheriff Department.

SurveyGator,

I'm with you on this totally.

If the officer would have done anything different, she would be criticized for not responding correctly, or anything else.

I could comment on the use of city/taxpayer resources, but the people of Naples seem to beat that to death on their own anyway.

It's a shame that this had to happen in this way. However, when I read the attitude of
Magnum50 when he states the people hate the NPD and all police, this tells me that
something has gone very, very wrong. When a police lieutenant from FT.MYERS says he
is blown away because people gave and gave to an officers wife and family, then
something is wrong. The problem is the new officers are being trained by people who have
this type of jaded opinion of the public.
There is no doubt that many people hate the police but the huge vast majority of the
people are proud of and have a deep regard for the officers of our police department. I
truly believe that the NPD officers can rest assured that their loved ones would be well
provided for if the worst were to happen here. The problem starts when the blue line
becomes a blue blanket that covers up mistakes and stonewalls any attempt at finding the
truth. This young officer made a mistake in judgment by not calling for a supervisor. This
was an unfortunate mistake that was made into a violation of the public trust by a
supervisor covering it up.
The public has become frightened of the police by reading of tasers, people being rousted
out of homes and the surly attitude of the officers and their lack of a friendly attitude
toward the people. I am sorry but the NPD does have a couple of officers who should not
be carrying a badge much less a gun and the good officers should stop covering for these
men. Lying in court and using your badge to intimidate and falsifying reports is wrong and
should not be tolerated by brother officers and FOP members.
This situation should be used as a wake up call for NPD in general and senior officers in
particular. Magnum50 believe me when I say if you were in trouble, Myself and many
other good citizens would be there to help you. That includes Mr. Willkomm who is a
strong supporter of our NPD and NFD.
A Fine Naples officer who was also a close friend of mine passed a few years ago.
Memphis said "If I can't give a guy a ticket and finish with a smile and a handshake I have
done something wrong. I won't arrest for verbal abuse unless he calls me something I
have never been called before." R.I.P

Whether she did her job is not the issue. It should be handled internally, not by some blow hard council man who thinks his opinion has some meaning. It is clear since Willkomm has been elected the man just wants a stage and attention. Willkomm and Kennedy should have coffee together. He should do his job and keep quiet.

OR TO HAVE MY WORDS PUBLICLY VIEWED from mall officer's Mommy to a City Councilman.

Wait....wait....I'm laughing so hard I wet myself.

I'll be back....

I feel so much better.

Anyway...sorry officer's Mommy, but when it's a matter of PUBLIC RECORD...it is indeed PUBLIC.

Therefore, your letter kinda made it worse.

I feel sorry for this arresting officer, as she made an aweful judgement call. She works for a public entity...and ACCOUNTABILITY is the name of the game.

She owes this poor man an apology, but he's not accepting phone calls right now as he's dealing with new buddies in jail for 42 freakin cents from a mall fountain.

Breathtakingly stupid! I love Councilman W's words on this case.

LOVE IT!

Albeit sad....I love it anyway....Naples P.D. needs some education in discretion and thinking before arresting....

while were at it....let's look at CCSO, too.
CCSO officer at 4:00 A.M.:
"I can't come into your home?
Waddya mean?
Lemme get my PEPPER SPRAY and FORCE MY WAY INTO YOUR HOME INSTEAD!"

What exactly are going through these officers's minds?

Obviously, not much!

Just goes to show that no matter how many degrees or educational honors you have, those pieces of paper are worthless if you don't have the common sense to know how to act in a given situation.
Perhpas this officer should spend more time learning her job than sitting in class.

Its also quite odd that the Mall security guard has not been held up to the same amount of scrutiny as this obviously rookie cop.

Or is it just a given that 'wanna be cop' secuity guards as dumb as everyone seems to think they are?

ICE, at this time, has not issued any statement either confirming or denying the legal immigration status of poor ol' Laszlo.

So, put your claws back into your paws for awhile, neocons, and wait for a word of confirmation from ICE before you go to attacking and possibly libeling this fellow.

And even if he is here illegally in some way, golly gee, I can see the threat there then, seeing how the massive problem we have with illegals from Hungary taking over this country and everything.

All 12 of them or so.

Hardee har har har.

Sheesh.

Trust me, Laszlo, if you're here legally and everything, get yourself a good lawyer, and I'm sure many will be fighting each other to get to you for their representation of you over this. You may have a nice hefty settlement awaiting you over this.

Only in America. No wonder Laszlo wanted to come here. No wonder EVERYONE wants to come here.

momforjustice...

I watched NBC2 and didn't see anything.

Be brave and speak up...but wait until there's a new Sheriff to listen to you.

New leadership can help in your situation, and if it feels better to share this with the media, then share it already.

Because all I'm reading is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

BLAH!

Just to think that this is how our justice system works gives me goosebumps...

I will start checking that the clerk at the grocery store rings up my coupons correctly...if not, i cannot walk out of the door or i might just be arrested and/or deported...

My God...what is happening to us.

In Lee County, I was arrested once for having my license suspended and in jail they put me in the same cell with a cold blooded killer...remember Robert Nunn, who killed his wife at the day care center?

Where is the logic here?

NYEM, a suspended license is really not the best way to go with in operating your vehicle. Oh I wanna go joyriding and my darned license is suspended...what were ya thinkin?:-0

But did you get a chance to slap Nunn silly? Kick him in the groin? Knock him on his butt? Beat the &^#%&%&^#^! out of him for his horrible act? Just wondering. :-)

If anything, a good attorney may help you....but a suspended license may not get you to his office very quickly.

But at least you're brave enough to talk about the wrongdoings and not blah, blah, blah, blah, like momforjustice.

Who told Ms. Joyce that the killer of the officer was an illegal?????how ignorant,get your facts straight Ms.Joyce before you make such damaging statement.
So far I don't know of any Cuban being illegal here.

LOL jag!
2 funny!!

Is anyone else in favor of a "912 system"?

"911" gets you the cops...

"912" and you get their mother...

it will give new meaning to "give 'em the old 1-2" !

This is a perfect example of when a mother of an adult needs to just keep her mouth shut.

What a joke. This guy has to steal 42 cents. Where do u think he would get a gun to shoot someone....WHAT A REAL JOKE

"Most of you sitting there saying the cop needs to us better judgement would have someone arrested for taking change out of your car."

entering a car or home is not equivalent to sticking ones hand in a fountain....apples and oranges...

#63 jag,
The guy that murdered the Fort Myers police was in fact here illegally. He was a cuban who due to his criminal history had been ordered deported in 2000. Unfortunately since Cuba didn't want him back ICE can only hold him a limited amount of time. They released him to supervision, which is a joke since they do not have anyone to supervise them.
Yes THEM. There are a large number of Abel Arangos lurking out there that have been ordered deported but our government let loose back on the streets.

So jag you decide who the ignorant one was this time.

This is in response to Tookie Williams comment.
You have the same attitude that 90% of the people out there in charge of immigration have. It's not the police's responsibility. Immigration does nothing. Maybe we as law abiding United States Citizens need to make a stand and say enough of the beauricratical nonsense. If you get in trouble with the law then hold them and have them deported if they are illegal. A notice to appear is nothing to an illegal alien. All they do is run to another city. I had that happen to me in the past when an illegal without a drivers license ran up into my yard and hit two of my cars. All he got was a notice to appear. He had no drivers license or insurance and the cop let him go with tickets and notice to appear. The cop even told me that the man would run and not appear. My insurance had to pay the over $5000.00 in repair fees and I had to pay a $500.00 deductible for each car. Yes I have a bad spot for this. And again it's time to take a stand and say enough. Start holding these people and deporting them. And kudo's to the police officer. She had a gut feeling and went with it. She (bottom line) did her job and should not be chastised for it. And yes I am a republican.

Did anyone catch the fox 4 news @ 11:00 last night?
according to them this guy is in ICE custody and has been here illegally for nine years.

why was no he deported??illegal here and freely roaming the streets??what a joke.
post #72 what you stated make no sense,"This guy is in ICE custody"???the guy is dead!!
he was illegal just in papers but in fact he was free to go anywhere he wanted since he could no get deported,how many illegals can do that????

The point is that Ms. Joyce justified her daughter saying that she din't want this guy go with a simple citation 'cause the officer was killed by a illegal alien,well... that illegal alien was in custody many times,he was in court many times,he was interviewed by ICE and they let him go,so she can't put this killer with illegal aliens in the same category.
Put the blame where it belongs,a broken immigration systems that many refuse to fix,some say"we don't need an immigrations reform,jut enforce the laws that are in the books"what they have to say about this???

#73jagv0565 What the &*$@ are you talking about.
I was referring to Laslo Mujzer. d o
y o u u n d e r s t a n d m e? I didn't ride the little yellow school bus like you did. I know ilegals are free to roam. and your question about how many ilegals can do that, all of them as long as they are not caught.....................

Mr Wilkommenn

I encourage you to look into the NPD's use of "Confidential Informants".

I think you will find that they exploit and use kids as young as 17 and guys in their 20's who have pending charges against them.

This involves phony "set ups". This includes setting up assualts at city beaches as well as phony drug purchasing stings at city beaches.

I have even seen strange "detectives" wearing infared head gear and glasses to look into peoples homes. They are indeed violaters of the public trust.

Beetlejuice:

You are right, driving without a license is never a smart thing to do...I finally got my license back and feel good about it.

Regarding Dunn, this guy should have gotten psicological help when he was separated from his wife.

Separations, divorces, deaths of a loved one and cheating partners make people act in abnormal ways for years.

Dunn told me he was an office manager for years since coming to SW Florida. He was living the american dream. I did not question him enough to find out how screw up he was or what screwed him up.

People should understand we do not "own" anyone when you are married...no one has the right to take anyone's life because their life does not belong to you.

People should be careful who they date or marry. Anyone is capable of having violent behavior.

Violent peole like Abel Arango and Robert Dunn should be sent to mental institutions. But we live in a 42-CENT society that is CREATING the Arangos and the Dunns.

Psicologists should have a greater part in our justice systems, school systems, and should control all TV programming and in the music industry.

atworkandplaying:

I agree with you...stealing is stealing. He could have ask people for change at the Coastland Center Mall and might have gotten alot more than 42CENT$. Some people are very generous and could have gotten $42 or more per hour.

But then he would have been charged for begging, loitering or soliciting. His fate was already written.

Jagv0565

Can you never get your facts straight when it comes to Hispanics? Cubans that have committed serious crimes and given Orders of Deportation are in the country illegally. The scum you are defending appears to be one of those.

From Wink TV

The Fort Myers Police Department is telling WINK News according to thier information Abel Arango was ordered to be deported from the United States.

It is not clear from the information the WINK News has obtained if Arango was actaully deported and then re-entered the United States, or if Arango was never deported.

Arango was a Cuban native. He entered the United States in Miami. Arango was given a "refugee status" in 1991. Nine years later, in 2000, he was ordered to be deported after being convicted of an Aggravated Felony. He appealed his deportation ruling, but the appeal was denied in 2001 and his Order of Deportation was reinstated at that time.

VERY WELL said NYEM...especially the 42 cent creationism of criminals comment.

I still can't fathom WHAT WAS going through the arresting officer's mind.

I'm going out for some Bad Ass Coffee with those delighful coffee ice cubes, then I'll let you know if I can think clearly.

Maybe Miss arresting officer should drink more coffee.

My question is: Did they keep the change for prints?

The N.P.D is dusting these coins as we speak.

But even 42 cents will not buy a cup of coffee.

Poor guy is still sitting in jail and waiting for an answer.

Breathtakingly stupid..:-0

Aside of pepper spraying people who were supposedly playing loud music, Lets not forget the undercover cops who chased down the little girls who were walking home from the mall.

The impression I am getting here is that the justice department is expected to uphold one law (illegal immigration) but not the other (theft)..