With every dark day in life there is also a ray of sunshine that penetrates the clouds. It is sad those golf courses in Palmira and Quail West will be closed but it will be an excellent opportunity to relocate trailers to those displaced from the East Bonita flooding. This will give those hard working families a new beginning and also the shareholders of those financially distraught communities a new source of rental revenue and commitment to community. God Bless America.

Now that is funny, I dont care who you are...

I'm an infrequent golfer ( breaking 100 is a big achievement) but fact is the number of rounds being played has been slowing for years. There are many examples of private clubs folding and becoming public courses and others where the land has been turned back for residential development. The problem here is that courses in the middle of an upscale S/D have few options - maybe only one - a wealthy Arab oil potentate........

Or allowing non-member scum (like me) to come play for a fee. The members don't like it because they paid $100K just to join.

We golf off season as much as possible and support the courses when the "Fat Cats" are up north. Let them play "in season" and get some local revenue off peak...

These stories are likely to become more commonplace. I heard from a reliable source that two of the valet parking attendants from the Port Royal Club had been layed off. Downturns in the economy will affect us all regardless of our station in life.

Hey Workattack: let me get this straight. You are not able to make enough money, most likely due to lack of education, or strong work ethic, little common sense, or all of the above, and you revel in the fact that people who did earn every dollar they have, elected to pay good money to join a club, and now the developer is screwing them is something you think is cool. How about picking the rock you slithered out from under up and go back in your dark little hole. Golf is too good a game for jealous little people like you.

Whatever happened the new TPC club being built along east 41? Seems like about a year or so ago they were stating that only 9 holes were opening due to the "drought." Now I'm sure they were referring to the money drought and not a lack of rainfall.

I don't think it's cool that anyone gets screwed. If they can't get enough $$$ from you then I guess they will close... Or they can go semi-private (and I'll have a single malt scotch at the bar with you)

Just break out your checkbook. You can afford it...

I'm going golfing... Later!

Any new concerning Kensington?

So, when a private club goes bankrupt, are the members then responsible for the depts of the club? That could really get expensive.

Time to check the books. Fraud, theft come to mind. Mismanagement. Jailtime

Some of these members may have to use their GOLDEN PARACHUTES of millions to save the Club! Bet they won't!

don't feel bad. many more will be going under over the next 5 years.

Unlike Palmyra, the best model to insure that the Country Club remains open in hard times is one that requires mandatory membership of all homes within the community. In that way golfers are secure in knowing they'll get to play daily, members will have the fitness center available and of course all will get to dine in the private dining facilities.
Thus, unlike the situation at Palmyra where residents are secure in their homes instead of the membership being deprived of anything, if you fall on hard times, your "friends" will bar you from the facilities, sick their "attack dog" lawyer on you to lien and then forclose your home.
Which scenario is worse?

sowestfla1975 - nice unwarranted attack on Workattack. Let me see if I understand your reasoning: Workattack says a good idea would be to let non-members play for a fee. Your response is to attack his/her station in life, integrity and intelligence. You sir, are an arse. Good day to you, sir!

Thanks for your support Squall.

For the record I make good money, own a very nice home, and just figured that supplemental income during times when the Snowbirds are not playing may help pay for their shortfalls.

I'm not poor, have 2 kids and a wonderful wife and I just shot an 82 on 18 holes at a semi-private course. They appreciated our money.

Exclude whomever you want during prime season. I just thought some revenue might help from people who live here all year round.

It seems like everyone is uptight right now about finances.

I just want to get out and golf... Otherwise I'm fine...

techie for the first time, I think your typical one line zinger is amusing.

sowestfla1975: I think squall_line summed it up nicely in his comments.

We used to live in one of these private communities. We had the money, education and all the rest...and we earned it all through hard work, however, because we value our hard earned money, we purposely made a decision to NOT live in isolation from the rest of the world AND not to put those hard won assets at risk. Why do I say risk? Because the expenses to run such enclaves never stop rising. Most folks we know who are really well off are more conservative with this kind of blank check.

Real estate "investment" is not always profitable or without risk.

While, unlike workattack, I am not a golfer (used to be, but gave it up because I am allergic to many of the chemicals used on courses), but I think it makes common sense to boost revenue. In other parts of the state this is common. In fact, many of the club restaurants open to the general public during off season and help their revenue stream as well.

Maybe we can grow beans.........Si?

LieStopper,

I'm as straight up as they come. I like to stir it up for fun but your bitterness is stronger than a double espresso from Starbucks...

You got to get out of house and get some fresh air...

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Since this thread has turned into Liestopper doesn't like workattack and has lost it's focus,
I have bumped the "Me no like workattack" thread to www.bonitaspringsbirdsanctuary.com.

Hopefully this will allow the folks at Palmira a clear forum to discuss the concerns of their community amenities.