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Tom Hanson: Parents illegal status causes some to stop caring

Baby Bryan has been missing for nine days now. He’s been without his mother for more than 200 hours. He was snatched by a woman on a Fort Myers street more than 12,000 minutes ago.

The time is emphasized because most of the community stopped caring after the first few hours. Most of the community stopped caring the minute they heard Baby Bryan’s parents are here in this country illegally.

“I don’t care if they send me back home,” Bryan’s mother, Maria de Fatima Ramos Dos Santos said in a TV interview. “I just want my baby back and then I’ll go.”

Did anyone hear her? Does anyone want to hear her? Most of the community heard what they wanted to hear.

Ramos Dos Santos, a native of Brazil, pleaded in Portuguese for the return of her son. A translator repeated her words in English. But all anyone needed to hear was that she and the father of the baby have only been here for a year and are undocumented. To find out Saturday that the parents were smuggled into the country probably angered the community even more.

The current disposition toward illegal immigrants is understandably strained. Most of the community tolerates illegals as long as they live in the shadows. Most of the community looks the other way as long as illegals cut the grass at the golf courses or pound nails into new homes. Yet lose a baby and an illegal immigrant is out of luck.

If Baby Bryan had blue eyes, blond hair and pale white skin, the community would be outraged.

If Baby Bryan’s mother didn’t have an accent and was an American citizen maybe the toddler already would have been found. It’s not that the police aren’t doing all they can. The question is: Has the community stepped up?

A baby being snatched is a sad story. To see people not care enough about a baby being snatched because he’s born to illegal immigrants is even sadder.

Nine days have passed and the community’s apathy toward this case is evident.

Three days after the kidnapping, the Baby Bryan story started losing steam.

At the Daily News, a story about local furniture stores fighting for customers received more Internet hits than the tale of the missing 1-month-old. A few days later, a story about no school in Collier County got nearly 100 posts in response while the saga about Baby Bryan didn’t receive a single comment.

Seven days into the search, local pastors held a prayer vigil at the Old Lee County Courthouse on Friday morning and fewer than 10 citizens showed up. A reporter called this a generous estimate of non-journalists and police personnel at the event. It may not have been the best plan — but sometimes we need to make time.

On Friday, the police offered the first reward of $10,000 for the safe return of Baby Bryan. Within hours, the amount doubled to $21,000. This was a good sign. But some questioned, what took so long to post a reward and why so little?

“$10,000? I spotted a poster on a utility post just off Goodlette (-Frank Road) north of Pine Ridge offering $1,000 for the return of a cat,” wrote a naplesnews.com poster.

They say time is money. But for police, time is slipping away. Nine days, 200 hours, 12,000 minutes is an eternity for a child to be missing. But how long will it take to change negative perception toward illegal immigrants?

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E-mail Tom Hanson at tahanson@naplesnews.com

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Hey Tom.....maybe you better watch the news a little more instead of running off at the mouth about how uncaring everyone is about illegal aliens. The parents are the ones who hampered the investigation, not the lack of community support. How about reporting that 12, thats right twelve Americans are slaughtered by illegals aliens every DAY! Thats 4,380 in a year, more than double all the American casualties in the entire Iraq war every year because big busniess and little business in Naples want open borders to bring in slave labor so they can make more money endangering the American people. Now thats a sad story.

#1 Posted by almostdone on December 10, 2006 at 5:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No one has stopped caring for this child because of the parents legal status. However it does renew the thoughts of how important it is to seal the borders and get control of the illegal human traffic business that creates such situations.

#2 Posted by Idmason60 on December 10, 2006 at 7 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is not that we don't care...it is that all this time was lost because the public and the police did not have the full story...this was critical information..we were looking in the wrong places..the baby is most likely out of the country by now. The parents' terrible situation was brought on by their status and the horrible people they dealt with. What a tragedy!! Perhaps we need to be looking AGAIN at the "humans for sale" issue here in Florida.

#3 Posted by mandypup on December 10, 2006 at 7:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I stopped caring.
they put themselves in this situation and IMO, have no right to expect help from government services in a country that they haven't entered legally.

#4 Posted by myrealname on December 10, 2006 at 7:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, they come here ILLEGALLY . . . and look at what it's costing us taxpayers, in law enforcement costs, to look for this baby.

I too feel badly for them. But, we have to be concerned about our country too .. . and whether we'll be able to afford to get the necessities in our old age or not, because all our public resources have been drained by those here illegally!

Including the spiryling costs of medical care because they're using it so much and NOT paying their bills!

#5 Posted by swampparadise on December 10, 2006 at 7:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My wife who is also the mother of our son is from Colombia. I met her two years ago when she was working legally in Miami. (L-1 visa) To get her green took us one year and cost us $1,500 even though we were married and our son was born a U.S. citizen. We decided to go through the process on our own after an immigration lawyer quoted us a $2,500 fee to handle the application. 1 year and $4,000 to attempt a green card. Is anyone still surprised at the number of illegals? Could it possibly be time to make the procedures and fees more realistic?

#6 Posted by alancodi on December 10, 2006 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'd much rather live next to illegal aliens than you guys.

I actually didn't think I would see a post quit as racist or completely evil as myrealname's.... I wouldn't have imagined that someone that is potentially living a nieghborhood where I have house could think the police nor anyone else should give a blasted about a seven month old baby... Scary.

BTW: Unless you are writing from the Mesisuqui Indian reservation... you're self righteous indigantion and sense of superiority over being "native" are a bad joke... And, before you get all high and mighty over your fictious versions of your great great grandparents immigrating and how superior they were (by default making you superior)...take a little look in some old newspapers... Irish decent? Your ancestors were all seen as alcoholic wife beaters...Eastern European? "proven" by scientists to have smaller brains than natives... Italian? criminals and very lazy... German? Traitors...during WWI the natives dumped yellow paint on grandfathers biz and house because he was a "traitor"... Japanese? Your grandparents or maybe even parents got sent off to prison camps...

You are what your ancestors hated.

And, no... your distant relatives didn't learn English worth a blasted unless they came here young or born hear. That's why just about every church had services or was for particular groups...and why there were so many non English newspapers...

The only time there was a pause in immigration was after WW2. Now, maybe we shouldn't have any more immigration ...or very limited...to make it better for working class people here. That is a reasonable argument... But, this sick s##t spewing from people about the baby not being worth anything because of paperwork... No.... . America would be better off if YOU were deported myrealname. People like you represent the soulless part of the US that does no one any good.

#7 Posted by Overseas on December 10, 2006 at 8:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't believe the negative perception toward illegal immigrants is going away because of the word "illegal" which means lawbreaker. 800,000 children are reported missing each year. Why is so much time being spent on this one child?

#8 Posted by froglegs on December 10, 2006 at 8:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

According to overseas, this baby has aged 6 months in the last week. If you are so sure of your facts, you should probably have read a few more articles on this subject. Have a good day.

#9 Posted by anotherdummy on December 10, 2006 at 8:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

did the perents know way the baby was teken?? if yes way dident they tell the police the truth?

#10 Posted by amy1233 on December 10, 2006 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Overseas...

In some ways i do understand what myrealname is getting at: This couple did put themselves in this position by having themselves smuggled here illegally. However, that all being said, the parents may be illegals, but the child is not. This child is an American Citizen. He was born here, and as such, he deserves to be treated just like every other American Citizen and should have all of our support in searching for him. Whats more, the people who kidnapped him should be shot and their bodies dumped on whatever beach they came from originally-the sick f***s. To them i say-you want some, come get some! And see what it feels like you illegitimates!
As for his parents...Well...Thats another matter entirely...

#11 Posted by wordofmouth on December 10, 2006 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hey overseas buy my house and you can have the 10 illegals on one side and 7 on the other side as neighbors just as you wish.

If this kidnapping happened in mexico the parents would have already been in jail for being there illegally

#12 Posted by grouper on December 10, 2006 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OVERSEAS:
THIS IS NOT RACIST....THIS IS REALITY!! Did I get in that van? Did I put that baby at such an incredible amount of risk? Did I come into this country illegally? NO. Am I paying for this search? YES and every other TAXPAYER in our community. And if you live here, and not OVERSEAS, then you are too. STOP PLAYING THE RACIST card every time you disagree with someone about illegal immigration. THEY ARE ILLEGAL!!!! PERIOD!! This is NOT A RACIST issue and the truly ignorant have no other angle to fallback to but the RACIST card. Look up the definition and then look at yourself. I do not care where they are from, THEY ARE ILLEGAL, and this purist viewpoint cannot be RACIST by definition. My family immigrated here LEGALLY, but gee, I guess this is not acceptable to you. You actually prove that you are the true racist; against the Irish just to start. I am Irish and your comments attack me and my entire heritage without even knowing me because you feel that you are superior over the Irish: that is truly RACIST! As you can see the VAST majority of respondents to this blog do NOT agree with your slanted, accusatory, short-sided comments, so obviously you need to get a grip with REALITY! Supposedly, the very scum that smuggled them here, took there baby. They put themselves in that position. We are already funding millions upon millions for drug treatment programs for illegals (notice no inference to nationality?) because they cannot stay out of troubles way. Tell ya what, you just pay my portion of the health-insurance going to all the illegal babies borne in this County and I will shut-up. DEAL???

In the meantime, if YOU do not help do something about illegal immigration (from any Country) and stop spewing racist filth and detracting from the true issue, you will continue to establish the very racism you are trying to fight: that we all are trying to fight. OVERSEAS, do you even hear ALL OF US? By the way, I care very much that the baby is found and returned to the parents regardless of all this; I guess its that good Catholic background that my Irish heritage instilled in me.

#13 Posted by sailnjed on December 10, 2006 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The baby appears to have been taken as "payment". After mom's lies so far are we to still believe the story about the child being taken at "knife point"?

Heartless? Maybe. I think people are a little tired of being manipulated and are justifiably irritated.

#14 Posted by TruthHurtz on December 10, 2006 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There are lot of emotions here for me... first and most important is the safety of that baby, no matter where he came from or who took him and why! I hope who ever did this gets hung by his short hairs!

Now.. the parents.. Ohhh my they should be shipped back to where ever they came from.. coming here illegally, causing this situation by their affiliation... LYING to the authorities.... and to all of us.. illegal .. liars.. hmm what else are they willing to do while here in the states?? Steal... cheat.. kill????

Don't get me wrong.. they are parents that have lost their child BUT.. they put themselves and that child in danger by the decisions they made.. SHAME on them! Now they lie to us all.. begging for help for something THEY caused.. As a parent I understand the grief... as a Citizen.. they sicken me for what they bring to our country ILLEGALLY!

I pray for the safety and quick return of this sweet child... I truly do... Then get them out of here!

#15 Posted by msmaryy on December 10, 2006 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sailnjad,

I got some Irish thrown in as well...as do...oh around 50% of Americans because of the potato famine... You missed my point that those who live in glass houses (me included...desendents of immigrants) have no business throwing stones.... Or maybe you didn't... just convenient to ignore?

What do you really know about your family immigrating here?

What do you really know about how THEY were treated by the self righteous natives of THEIR time?

I can understand being against immigation. There were good reasons to be against immigration in the 1800's... Many of them are exactly the same...they drove down wages for natives and helped create the first Gilded Age in America-the era where there was a massive poor class and a large upper class and few in between... It was bad then...And, it is bad now.

There is one part I don't get or accept... Ranting your superiority... or your ancestors' superiority. You and I and everyone else here came from dirt poor semi or illiterate people who came here to see if they could scratch out a better deal then they had where they came from. And, all waves of immigrants have been hated. ALL ...not some. There have never been "welcome" immigrants...except for perhaps a tiny minority of high tech people... So... you passionately loathe EXACTLY... -including down to the brown skin (if you have even a single Italian/Spanish or Greek ancestor) who YOUR ancestors were. Don't give me the "LEGAL" versus ILLEGAL nonsense...Your starving illiterate forebearers got on the nearest over crowded rat infested boat just like every other immigrant....

I am against more immigration too but would't dream of blaming the people who are desperate to make a better life for themselves because I am not such a fool nor so absurdly arrogant to think that I would not have done the exact same thing in their shoes. No, I blame the people that hire them and the politicians in the pockets of biz who don't enforce the laws.

You want to end illegal immigration in a month? Here is how.

Charge every company $10,000 per illegal alien they employ.

Offer $5,000 of that money to every illegal alien who turns themselves in and reports/proves that their employer knowingly hires illegals.

A few illegals will turn themselves in... presto... every company will be terrified to hire illegals because the illegals may report themselves.

Will this be done? No.

#16 Posted by Overseas on December 10, 2006 at 3:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here is one article of the eighty gazzillion that popped up when I searched a tad about how previous immigrants were viewed (your ancestors)....

http://www.cjd.org/paper/truth.html

#17 Posted by Overseas on December 10, 2006 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Overseas: I love that solution! Make the businesses pay!

But the one thing that makes me CRINGE are the comments about people desperate to make a better life for themselves. It's an argument I don't buy. Desperation doesn[t excuse criminal behavior. In my college days, I was desperate for food. But I didn't resort to crime. I found extra jobs so I could feed myself without hurting anyone else! Wanting a better life IS NO EXCUSE for criminally entering a country.

The parents are criminals, and the smugglers are criminals. Neither of them deserves a precious baby. The baby deserves to be found but the parents should lose custody.

I think the author is correct that most are apathetic towards the parents once we learned they are criminals. But of course the baby isn't a criminal and it deserves safety, security, and love. The parents can only give Bryan 1 of those 3 things. Because of that, and because they are criminals, they aren't fit parents.

If they are smart though, they will get pregnant right away again so they can keep what they've got left.

There are probably not as many folks who want the baby returned to the parents now. But it's somewhat comforting to know the baby is worth more alive than dead to the kidnappers, since the baby is an "asset". At least the parents won't have to fear about the baby's safety as much -- the kidnappers have incentive to keep Bryan healthy.

#18 Posted by naplesnewby on December 10, 2006 at 3:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Naplesnewby....

About crime.... It is hard for me to see a comparison between robbery etc... and sneaking in to wash dishes. And, it makes you cringe? Come on does it really make ya cringe when you go to any SW FL restaurant because they have illegal dishwashers. Do ya cringe with the criminally picked orange juice ya had for breakfast.... or the criminally constructed house that you are e-mailing from?

Illegals yes.... Criminals no... Remove the incentive to come and they won't come. Simple as that... Most are like most people already here... Honest hardingworking people. Go to your local Catholic church during a Spanish mass and see how much ya really end up "cringing"....

#19 Posted by Overseas on December 11, 2006 at 6:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)



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