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It was 20 years ago that Don Hunter first donned the star as sheriff of Collier County.
At the time, crime had been rising steadily for five years, mirroring a growing population. When Hunter was elected, there were just over 115,000 people living in Collier County, barely a third of today’s population.
Other than a blip in the mid-1990s, the crime rate generally decreased under Hunter’s watch, with the 2007 rate being the lowest since at least 1971.
Hunter won reelection in 1992, 1996, 2000 and 2004, and was once named the “Sheriff of the Year” by the Southwest Florida Crime Prevention Council.
In October 2007 — the day before his 56th birthday — Hunter surprised many Collier County residents when he announced that he would not seek reelection in 2008. At the time, the only announced candidate for the position was private investigator and former state trooper Victor Ortino.
In the days after Hunter’s announcement, two more candidates tossed their hats in the ring — then-Undersheriff Kevin Rambosk, who has worked in law enforcement and government in Collier County since 1978, and Vincent “Vinny” Angiolillo, the owner of a North Naples limousine company and a former Connecticut state trooper.
On Aug. 26 one of these three men will be elected the next sheriff of Collier County; tasked with keeping crime trending down, tax dollars in check and residents safe.
“To come in after such a successful sheriff as Don Hunter is a big job,” said Carla Dean, chair of the Collier County Republican Party.
For 10 months, Ortino, Rambosk and Angiolillo have each been criss-crossing Collier County, shaking hands, kissing babies and trying to explain to voters why he believes he is the best man for the job. The three candidates have also engaged in several debates, many of which were closed to the public.
In late June, the Daily News began asking readers to submit questions for the three candidates, and in early July invited all three in to answer some of those questions on camera. The project was named “The Race for the Star.”
Readers submitted nearly 40 questions for the candidates.
The interviews were conducted separately with each candidate answering the same five questions. In some cases multiple readers submitted similar questions about a topic, so those questions were combined into one.
On some issues, the candidates generally agreed — illegal immigration is a problem, for example — while on others they couldn’t be farther apart. But one thing was perfectly clear, each candidate believes he is the most qualified to be the next sheriff.
“With my knowledge of private industry along with the federal government background, I feel I’m probably the most qualified,” Ortino said.
“I’ve worked progressively through the ranks at different levels of responsibility, managerially and with leadership in an organization of 150 employees, 550 employees and 1,367 employees,” Rambosk said, citing his positions as chief of the Naples police department, Naples city manager and Collier County undersheriff.
“The feelings that have changed here over the past 15 or so years, most of the public wants a serve and protect attitude rather than a harass and collect attitude,” Angiolillo said. “And they feel, a lot of people that I’ve spoken to throughout the community, that they’re being chastised by the Sheriff’s department, and that’s why I put my name in the ring.”
Rambosk discussed his work with the American Heart Association to add automated external defibrillators to all patrol vehicles.
“That’s very important to me because I have had a relative as well who died from sudden cardiac arrest,” said Rambosk, who wore his Sheriff’s Office uniform. He has since resigned from the agency to avoid running afoul of a federal election law.
Angiolillo talked about his plan to take over policing duties from the Marco Island and Naples police departments.
“The people in Marco Island and Naples proper are paying dual taxes for the Sheriff’s department and their own individual police departments,” said Angiolillo, who arrived in his trademark white shirt, black shorts and bow tie.
Both Ortino, who wore a suit and tie, and Angiolillo said that if elected sheriff, red light cameras would not be employed. Rambosk is a staunch defender of the cameras, calling them “the use and fusion of technology in today’s society.”
“You have more accidents at intersections that have red light cameras than you have when you don’t have the red light cameras,” Ortino said. “Up to 50 percent at certain intersections.”
The discussions also touched on the Sheriff’s Office’s budget and improving 911 response.
The job of sheriff is not one to be taken lightly, and keeping crime in check is not easy. In less than six weeks it will be up to Collier County voters to determine whose job it will be.
These interviews should help many make up their mind.









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Well I can see by my question that was used (#2) about what the CCSO and 911 can do to help me if I suffer another heart attack, and need help immediately, who my vote is going to.
With canidate Angiolillo, quite simply, I'M A DEAD MAN! What a buffoon. He has no idea about how county 911 dispatches and prioritizes a CPR call.
Next canidate Ortino droped the ball. He feels that the role of law enforcement is to secure and make safe the scene for the cops and first responders. So, with him as sheriff, I'M A DEAD MAN. Responding deputies would make safe the surrondings until the EMS or whoever gets there, while I'm turning blue and dying. POOR ANSWER!
Lastly Rambosk spoke about the importance of ALL sheriff first-responders being trained and equipped with AED's (Defib machines)in all patrol cars. He is working with the Heart Assoc., along with both public and private donation sources to put an AED in EVERY patrol vehicle, along with a trained Deputy. While I live on Marco, I work in North Naples and commute everyday. I feel protected knowing my sheriff's department is prepared to save my life, since they are usually the first on the scene for a CPR call.
VOTE RAMBOSK ON AUGUST 26th!!!!!
#1 Posted by MarcoRobert on July 18, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
i cant believe Ortino said that Sheriff's Office job as first responder was to keep the scene safe and ignore the patient in need. WOW.
Kevin Rambosk for Sheriff!
#2 Posted by grillerdad on July 18, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
A Deputy"s first job is to make sure the scene is safe. This is usually done in just a glance. This is to protect the officer and aid someone in need.
Ortino says no to red light camera"s. This show"s me he is not all about the money.
During Hunters run in office traffic has always seemed to be the number one priority so much so that one has to question is it all about taxing and harassing.
Personally I think the sheriff should be spending alot more resources on Gangs. This behavior will effect us as a comunity more then anthing else. Let it be known if you chose this lifestyle we will put you away or you can leave this county.
#3 Posted by n7lima on July 18, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I see the Rambosk cheer-leading squad is hard at work at their desks blogging on company time, first blog posted at 8:31 AM.
Sis Boom Bah, Rah, Rah, Rah, go Redlight Rambosk.
#4 Posted by sunnydaze on July 18, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It is obvious that the Naples Daily News is in the pocket of the Sheriff’s Office since Brigid O’Malley was hired over to the Sheriff’s Office from the Naples Daily News. I overheard her say that she can control the Naples Daily News.
I for one, did not believe this until I noticed the time of the article yesterday about Rambosk resigning because, he was clearly in violation of the LAW. The article was posted at 1:46 pm while the writer Ryan was still at the Sheriff’s office interviewing. Then the first blog came in at 1:28 pm, the blog came in 20 minutes before the article was even posted???
Rambosk thinks he is above the LAW. It’s Time!
Ortino is the most qualified and the best choice. Stop using CCSO recourses to run a campaign.
#5 Posted by Citizen1007 on July 18, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
How can we possibly have a guy running for Sheriff (vinnie/vic) that "took a couple classes" at the community college?
And vic's favorite book is a karate book? What a dope!
Rambosk for Sheriff!
#6 Posted by lynncon on July 18, 2008 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It's time for change. Vote ORTINO August 26. Rambosk should of resigned the day he announced he was running.
I submitted many questions to the NDN to use & most were hard questions but I see they only asked easy ones. I suppose this was to protect Rambosk. I can only hope that when I'm at the debates next week they might be willing to ask some of the hard questions. I am disappointed in this studio 55 thing. I hope no one makes up their minds by reading this article. Go to the upcoming debates:
August 23 6:30pm Golden Gate Community Center
August 25 7:00pm Collier County Commission
Chambers
August 29 6:00pm Naples Hilton
#7 Posted by Toesmom on July 18, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Of course, the NDN is for Rambosk. That's a no-brainer. They're smart folks over there. God bless 'em.
This Studio 55 event should be posted all over town. It's a great representation of the candidates and how Rambosk is the clear next Sheriff!
I hope all of the tattooed, fired and criminally charged people are at the debates for Victor. It makes such a delightful sight and shows where his support comes from.
I heard he was bailing people out of jail to walk in the parade on the Fourth of July.
#8 Posted by cardshark8 on July 18, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The voter's simply need to ask themselves one basic question. Do they want to continue the twenty year reign of petty partisanship, good old boy promotions, shoddy investigations resulting in criminals walking, and skyrocketing taxpayers budgets or do they want to make a change for new leadership.
Vote Ortino for Change.
#9 Posted by straighttalker on July 18, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The Hatch Act of 1939, named after Senator Carl Hatch of New Mexico; was aimed at stopping corrupt political practices. The main provision was to prohibit federal employees (civil servants) from engaging in partisan political activities The law was officially known as:
An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities
Pernicious is an adjective derived from the Latin word pernicies,which means "destruction" or "death." The definition is: destructive or intending to cause great harm--malicious. As in the pernicious rumors passed on by the Redlight Rambosk cheer-leaders.
#10 Posted by sunnydaze on July 18, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The Rambosk supporters claim that he is is such an honorable man. Has the campaign returned the $500 donation from the former Jail Captain, who resigned/retired under a cloud of suspicion?
#11 Posted by MrTruth on July 18, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Why would Rambosk need to resign? Does this mean that an incumbent sheriff would have to resign upon declaring a run for re-election?
#12 Posted by asdfasdf on July 18, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TOESMOM,
Wow, and your the campaign manager for Victor Ortino. And this is who we want running the Sheriff's Office???? huh ??? You don't even have the correct dates for the upcoming events. Like I said before, you and your dying campagin are going to see the change you want so bad. It's called Kevin Rambosk SHERIFF OF COLLIER COUNTY. Hey Victor really knows how to pick them. I bet he isn't very happy with you. Hey dummy, with the dates you sent out Kevin will already be the new Sheriff and people will be wondering what planet your from. This is what you would get if Ortino ever became sheriff uneducated individuals like Toesmom. Way to go TOE.
#13 Posted by diamondgal on July 18, 2008 at 4:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Do you mean much like someone waiting more than two months to fill out an arrest report AFTER the person pled out (under Rambosk's watch?)
Anyone can make a mistake. The debates are on those dates in July, not August.
#14 Posted by mothernature on July 18, 2008 at 6:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Apparently Vic's campaign manager doesn't even know that debates are held BEFORE election.
Wow! And you want those losers in charge of your safety.
Congratulations, Sheriff Rambosk!
#15 Posted by nickm on July 18, 2008 at 7:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks diamondgal for pointing out my mistake. It was an honest one but I"m sure you are perfect & have never ever made a mistake in your life. No I'm not working for the Ortino campaign I'm just a concerned taxpayer. I will correct my mistake the debates are as follows.
July 21 6:00 at the Norris Center, 755 8th Ave S
July 23 6:30 at the Golden Gate Community Center
July 25 7:00 at The Collier Commission Chambers
July 29 6:00 at Naples Hilton
Again sorry for the typo. Thanks mothernature for pointing out that people can make mistakes. Have a good weekend.
#16 Posted by Toesmom on July 18, 2008 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You're not a very good manager. But then you have a very bad candidate. Two for two.
Why do you always wear matching clothes? I don't get it...
#17 Posted by cardshark8 on July 18, 2008 at 8:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Cardshark Your right, they always do wear the same matching clothes.
Victor Ortino = Empty suit and 3rd grade education.
Toesmom = Empty pantsuit and no knowledge of how to run a campaign. And she states she is just a concerned taxpayer. Yeah! and I ride motorcyles too. We know who you are TOESMOM. A reject disgruntled former member of the CCSO
And you want these people protecting us? NOT! They can't even organize or schedule events properly. And we want them handling MILLION DOLLAR BUDGETS??? NOT!
#18 Posted by diamondgal on July 18, 2008 at 11:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
And what is your education?
#19 Posted by sunnydaze on July 19, 2008 at midnight (Suggest removal)
Bottomline:
Collier County has the worst reputation of a police department. The stories I have read in the past 2 years are astounding. I'm surprised the Feds aren't looking in. Maybe they are.
Hunters confessions/explanations in the paper are illiterate at best.
The problem is these are the lamest challengers to come up with. The machine marches on.
#20 Posted by volochine on July 19, 2008 at 1:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If the naples attorneys are for Rambosk what does this tell you, people say they'll vote for Rambosk cause the other candidates have less experience? thats why we have the same garbage being elected to congress over and over again. naples voters have voted Hunter in over and over and all he's given us is a drain on our tax dollar and thats the same thing Rambosk will give us.
I'm not going to waste my vote on another loser who's the spitting image of Hunter
#21 Posted by grouper25 on July 19, 2008 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ortino said of the last book he read: "It's a simple book". Yeah, good thing because with his education that is all he can handle!
And Vinnie? Not even asked what book he last read.
Rambosk is our next Sheriff.
#22 Posted by grillerdad on July 19, 2008 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks NDN for showing this because most of us won't be able to attend the various debates.
After viewing the Q&A, my gut feeling has been solidified:
Vinny-wore shorts and had insane answers to these important issues and has no education or experience.
Vic-means well and seems to be a fine PI, but he is in over his head on this.
Kevin- well educated professional who devoted his life to law enforcement, HE HAS MY VOTE.
ps- having 2-3 yrs as a FL trooper or 5 yrs as a CT trooper means either you didn't like the job or you were a misfit, you chose private industry, now stay in private industry.
#23 Posted by shwing on July 19, 2008 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I would like to know what each of the candidates would do to ensure that both parents are questioned when a child is abused, neglected, or even more sad, murdered. Here is who abuses and murders children:
Perpetrators of Child Abuse - http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pu...
Perpetrators of Child Fatalities - http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pu...
It is sickening that our sheriff's department seems to rely upon the perpetrator as the sole character reference of the child's other parent. The child could very well have a perfectly fit parent to safely protect them, but these goofballs wouldn't even know. The sheriff department's dereliciton of duty to investigate child abuse has permeated over to the newspaper's duty to investigate too. See today's story about child neglect as just another example.
#24 Posted by POC on July 19, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It's time for a new Sheriff.
Wow read the papers see whats going on now at the CCSO the good old boys are still there and will continue if we do not make a difference.
Vote for Victor Ortino he will make a difference read what he is all about!
#25 Posted by fudguther on July 19, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Penalties for Violating the Hatch Act
If the Merit Systems Protection Board finds that the violation warrants dismissal from employment, the employing agency must either remove the employee or forfeit a portion of the federal assistance equal to two years salary of the employee. Rambosk makes a six figure income and the two years of federal assistance that will be forfeited by the CCSO will come directly out of the tax payer's pockets. Can we aford that? But then again, perhaps the red light cameras will make up the difference.
#26 Posted by sunnydaze on July 19, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
For all it's worth...there are a lot of people who have looked up info on the internet and somehow try and exhibit themselves as experts in any given field such as the Hatch Act, Health and Human Services, and the Merit Systems Protection Board.
Where I come from, you armchair experts would be referred as "Philadelphia Lawyers." Do you really think that the bonafide experts in these fields have not already given official consul to Mr. Rambosk, and with regard to the child-neglect or murder the CCSO and Div. of Family Services?
POC, take notice...As a former LEO I take insult by your blastedimg statement about how the CCSO handle child abuse/murder complaints.
#27 Posted by MarcoRobert on July 19, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So let me see...
4 years in the Air Force Security
Police= Gate Guard..
Left FHP prior to being terminated for time card fraud...
And 20 some years as a PI ( or whatever Vic sez he is) DOES NOT add up to 30 years as a Law Enforcement Professional....
It has changed so much since his FHP fiasco days..Another clueless statement, from a candidate with a clueless look...
Great job Vic...
RAMBOSK 08
#28 Posted by DGNR8 on July 19, 2008 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Living and working for the city of Naples all your life makes you an educated man? This man never served in the military and now runs around enjoying the rights that Ortino and all military servicemen and women gave him.
So I guess the time in a military uniform, FHP, private business and karate school does not equate to anything?
We have a bunch of backwards folks leaving in Naples that have created a local language called lack of common sense and untouched with the rest of the world.
I cannot see how Rambosk can win when only 12,000 people live in the city of Naples. I have news for Rambosk supporters, there is another world outside of Naples who have voting powers.
Good luck to all but please don't impress the readers by saying that only those that come from Naples are smarter.
#29 Posted by USDfender on July 19, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think all of the Ortino supporters here have finally convinced me that Vic is the one for Sheriff. All of the points they make are perfect for switching ones alliance. Thanks to all.
#30 Posted by shawshank on July 19, 2008 at 5:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You didn't switch alliances, you idiot.
You've been posting for Vic all along. How stupid are you Ortino supporters? Well, that was a stupid question. Pretty stupid to vote for cheating, lying mess of a man like that.
RAMBOSK FOR SHERIFF!
#31 Posted by nickm on July 19, 2008 at 7:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok you win nickm I'm an idiot. If you are somebody for Rambosk, I would tone it down a bit. He wouldn't approve of your attitude. You post just like an Ortino fan.
#32 Posted by shawshank on July 19, 2008 at 7:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As an Air Force veteran, I really resent that a military police officer is being called a gate guard. Many military police officers, no matter which branch, investigate homicides, child abuse, handle traffic and crashes, suicides, etc. They have detectives, drug dogs, bomb dogs, etc., etc. You have probably just single-handedly made all veterans and serving personnel vote for Ortino. Great job. I bet Rambosk is real proud of you. But, I see Rambosk never served, so how would he know what military officers do? There's no base or post around here. And, the CCSO doesn't want to play fair with other law enforcement agencies in the area (there's even an e-mail to that affect written by someone within CCSO. It's OK for them to help in Charlotte, but forget Lee County. Where were they today for the deal to set up donations/funds for the fallen FMPD officer's widow? Charlotte County had representatives attend.) I'm sorry, but a vote for Rambosk is a vote for someone who does not care about our veterans/military personnel if your statement is any reflection of him. Vote August 26...for ORTINO.
#33 Posted by mothernature on July 19, 2008 at 8:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Folks please, Mr. Ortino does not have the qualifications to be the next Sheriff. No education, no police experience period. Any law enforcement member would not consider one year as making it past the rookie stage. If you look hard enough you will probably find that Ortino was not welcomed back to the FHP. Mr. Ortino now claims to have 30 years (lie) in law enforcement (Studio 55), are you kidding? He just slapped the faces of any law enforcement officers even his supporters. P.I. work equals law enforcement? Now for the Moritz case Ortino claims to have solved. Only after a cash reward was offered did a witness come forward. At the time the family had hired Ortino. Ortino simply provided a witness to the CCSO who then completed the rest of the investigation, presented their case to the State who issued a warrant. Ortino did not present the case to the State as he reported (lie), he has no authority to do so. Lets be real, citizens provide information to law enforcement all over the world (daily) that solves cases that is why agencies have TIPS lines. For those bloggers that are trying to convince the voters that deputies support Ortino, I can tell you that is not true. Sure there are a few that feel they were wronged that may (and a very few), such as Varnold, Caperton, Rich, Knott, Thompson, etc. Run a search on their names via this newspaper which will give you the reason why. By the way Mr. Ortino felt that these were worthy candidates to employ after they "left" the CCSO. Further, if you want to see the deputy support Rambosk has just show up at a debate. Never in any of the five elections for Collier Sheriff has there been so much deputy support. To further this look at the supervisor of elections website for the list of contributors both deputy and citizen. Rambosk will be change to the CCSO. I for one would not want to put the safety of the community in the hands of an uneducated karate instructor with anxiety issues. Vinny you are comic relief through this whole thing.
VOTE RAMBOSK FOR SHERIFF!
PS toesmom and mrs smith you have absolutely no idea what you are speaking about, you are so concerned about who used to work at the CCSO, you really should be concerned about who your husband is hiring.
#34 Posted by Vetres73 on July 19, 2008 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
USDefender: Rambosk's master's degree and FBI Academy attendance make him an educated man.
Ortino's "couple of community college classes" make him unworthy of the office of Sheriff.
#35 Posted by grillerdad on July 19, 2008 at 8:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Nicely stated vetres73.
#36 Posted by shawshank on July 19, 2008 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The few Ortino groupies here are absolutely convinced he’ll win. None of us will convince them otherwise - only August 27 will do that, when Rambosk wins by a landslide. How do I know? Because I've witnessed Sheriff Elections since Aubrey Rogers days. There was only one close race that came from a then popular S.O. employee, Mike Koors, who had about half (If not more) of the agency members behind him. 500 votes separated Koors & Hunter. Ortino has a very small following of S.O. employees, plus he is not nearly as well-known as Koors was. This race between Ortino & Rambosk is more like when "Tiger" ran against Hunter. No contest here. An early congratulation to our next Sheriff Kevin Rambosk!!
#37 Posted by DeDeDee on July 19, 2008 at 10:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
MarcoRobert,
"POC, take notice...As a former LEO I take insult by your blastedimg statement about how the CCSO handle child abuse/murder complaints."
I don't know what balstedimg means. But, why would you be opposed to the CCSO ensuring that child abuse/murder investigations include questioning both parents?
#38 Posted by POC on July 20, 2008 at 12:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"The Hatch Act prohibits Federal executive branch employees from engaging in political activity while on duty, in any room or building occupied in the discharge of official duties by an individual employed or holding office in the U.S. government, while wearing a uniform or official insignia identifying the office or position of the employee, or using any vehicle owned or leased by the government." Therefore all those photos of Rambosk in uniform on the campaign literature and on the website are a violation of the Hatch Act. The person who is supposed to uphold the law, didn't even check to see what that law was. As soon as there was a possibility of a violation, way back in October, someone in Rambosk's camp should have checked into the requirements of the Hatch Act. And it is not an obscure law, anyone that took American History in high school knows about it.
#39 Posted by sunnydaze on July 20, 2008 at 2:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Kevin Rambosk's endorsements:
Collier Deputies, Lodge 14 Fraternal Order of Police
10-13 Club (Retired NYPD and NY police officials)
Naples Lodge FOP 38
Florida Professional Firefighters (26,000 members)
North Naples Professional Firefighters Local #2297
East Naples Professional Firefighters Local #2396
City of Naples Professional Firefighters Local #2174
Golden Gate Professional Firefighters Local #3182
Greater Naples Better Government Committee
#40 Posted by hah007 on July 20, 2008 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
In order for CHANGE to occurr within the CCSO, an outside person needs to be brought in. That is how all multimillion dollar businesses and failing businesses operate! Running the CCSO is also a business. Need to get an outside person in to weed out those who do not cut it ( perhaps some of the good ole boys everyone is referring to). The Sherriff's budget definitely needs some cleaning out and weaning. Too many expensive and elaborate toys for them to play with instead of using them to get rid of the undersirables. Too much time is spent sitting in medians chatting and surfing the web, in Hess stations chatting, and not obeying the speed limits ( when flashing lights are not on). Everyday as I go to work I see 4-5 deputies speeding. What kind of impression is that for the community? I guess the messgae sent is if you are in uniform it is okay to violate the traffic laws. Besides who is going to stop them? Surely not their peers so yes children if you want to always not obey traffic laws, become a CCSO deputy!
#41 Posted by Bosslady51 on July 20, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bossie - I want enhancements in the CCSO not change. Kevin Rambosk has already proved himself as the one to do that and has a plan to even further enhance CCSO.
Change would mean the crime rate would go up. I cant believe you and the Ortino gang WANT that to happen here. Thats shows total ignorance and lack of experience. As well as careless disregard for the security of my family.
Ortino is OrtiNOT
Vote for Kevin Rambosk on 8/26
#42 Posted by grillerdad on July 20, 2008 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
and sonnyboydazed: Rambosk is not a "Federal executive branch employee". Apparently you were dazed and confused during your remedial American History class.
#43 Posted by grillerdad on July 20, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bosslady, Toesmom, mrs smith, ginny o, fyi there is no "first lady" at the ccso so do not get your hopes up. As a citizen who has experience in both the corporate and law enforcement arenas why would you criticize deputies taking a break in a median or store? I see their break serves a purpose, slowing traffic down and deterring possible crime. Would you rather they return to the station where no deterence to crime, etc. would occur? Compare to corporate, they go to a break room and are paid for by the company to smoke, eat and talk. Speeding, take the car number and turn it in, but remember a burglar alarm, residential alarm unverified 911 in my day were not lights/siren calls as were many others, how do you want them to come to you? Not fast enough I am sure. Budget, again take a look you have no idea what you are talking about, the next place to cut is jobs. Government budgets are approx. 85% people/salary. Oh, and the 70 commander positions the ccso has is really like 12 captains/commanders compared to LCSO with 29! Take a look at the staff boards in the ccso lobby, it's literally in black and white. Lets support our men and women in law enforcement who would give their life responding or answering your call for help as we have seen recently. You will be suprised the differnce it will make!
VOTE AUG 26 RAMBOSK FOR SHERIFF!
#44 Posted by Vetres73 on July 20, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Let's review.
A guy with a high school diploma and that's it --Ortino
A guy who hires CCSO fired deputies who surf for teen porn and claim a brain injury made them do it and deputies who just can't tell the truth ---Ortino
A guy who has had failed businesses in his past ---Ortino
A guy who cheated on his time card during the 3 MONTHS he was a cop and was fired- Ortino
A guy who really should go back into his strange little warped world and let law enforcement be handled by professionals like Kevin Rambosk!
Vote Kevin Rambosk on Aug. 26.
P.S. Victor, you are a despicable human being. Stay tuned!
#45 Posted by jimmymick on July 20, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Vic was only a cop for 3 months? Don't they have to go to an academy for at least 6 months? so that means he flunked out of his training...now the reason he has no education beyond high school makes sense jimmymicky...maybe he has a learning disability. Not that there's anything wrong with that of course...but for our Sheriff? no way.
Ortino is OrtiNOT
Vote for Kevin Rambosk!
#46 Posted by grillerdad on July 20, 2008 at 9:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I saw on another blog posting something about a list of people that were fired from the Sheriffs Office and then were hired by Mr. Ortino. And now the Ortino campaign seems to think they were fired unfairly and are vowing to get them reinstated. Can someone from the Ortino campaign expain how they would treat these people fairly? Especially the child porn viewer- that really scares me. And the lady that fraudently filled out her time card. Would they let her pay it back and apologize and then keep working or ?? I would really like answers to these questions. The ethics and morality involved here are important issues to me. Thank you.
#47 Posted by kbeechnw on July 20, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Veteran – United States Air Force, Law Enforcement Officer (1976 – 1981)"
That was taken from Ortino's website just for the benefit of those of you spreading rumors saying he has no experience in Law Enforcement.
It's one thing to be in support of one person - it's your choice and your right. But remember, others have that same right, and I think you're forgetting that there's 300,000 people in this COUNTY. People in the City (who are generally served more by NPD than the SO) may support Rambosk, but the majority in the County do not. I just hope that everybody takes action by voting on Aug 26, because that is what counts. Not all this rumor-spreading, words of hatred, name-calling or living up to CCSO's reputation of using intimidation tactics and bullying. That is all I see on here by certain individuals.
#48 Posted by fearisfailure on July 20, 2008 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Fear,
We know you're afraid. Just go back to sleep. Obviously you're not over your hangover yet like the rest of you sad, dejected, over-alcoholed Ortinians.
Rambosk has BIG countywide support and you'll see that at the polls on Aug. 26. He's well known, well liked and a polished professional. That these two bums are even on the same ballot makes most people ill.
I believe your two minutes of talktime is over. Buh bye.
#49 Posted by jimmymick on July 20, 2008 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
jimmymick - thanks for proving my point.
Just because I don't agree with YOU gives you the right to name-call?
You could have easily made your point without resorting to juvenile language. I would LOVE for you to have enough courage to say that to somebody's face - specially MINE. But no, you have anonymity to 'protect' your comments. SO cowardly. You will never find me post a comment that I wouldn't say to somebody's face. You have heard of the term 'internet gangsters' - act so 'hard' online but behind the keyboard they are geeky little boys living out a fantasy.
I'm not saying that is you - you are probably protected by your 'badge', acting under color of law. You seem to have personal feelings for Rambosk - I'm sorry if Ortino & Vinny have been competing for your 'Daddy's' attention lately, but you should learn to keep emotion out of anything that is supposed to appear to be professional.
Not name-calling, just reading between the lines of your post. Again, not saying that this is you, but if the shoe fits then my message may strike a nerve! We'll see.....
#50 Posted by fearisfailure on July 20, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
kbeechnw,
Just to let you know, the woman with the time card issue was an exempt employee, so that was something a certain jail captain just recently forced into retirement because of alleged sexual escapes (the proof is there). An exempt employee can work 20 or 100 hours. It was just something they came up with because he was a pretty boy at the time.
#51 Posted by mothernature on July 20, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
fearisfailure, Take Jimmymick's advice. Go back to bed and get over your hangover before coming on here and writing like a 3rd grader. Most of the people I talk to in Collier County, say the same thing about Ortino and his supporters. It appears you all have the perception of being alcoholics and uneducated. Not to mention a campaign who caters to criminals and folks who seem to be down on themselves. Just follow the Ortino campagin and you will see what I'm talking about. You just don't have an intelligent group. It looks like all the LOSERS tossed out of the bars in Naples. How can you possibly manage a million dollar plus budget? or provide education to the community about serious issues involving crime. I say vote for a sure thing and a proven individual. Kevin Rambosk has my families VOTE. Take a couple of asprin get back on the motorcycle and head for another bar. Bye now!
#52 Posted by diamondgal on July 20, 2008 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
lol @ diamondgal,
Actually, I haven't had a drink in years, have never ridden a bike, haven't been to a bar in years, but that is my choice. Many people who do like to enjoy a beer or glass of wine might take offense to that so would you like to take a minute to explain to them what they are doing wrong? I'm sure those celebrating their weddings this weekend with a glass of Moet would like to know why you see them as losers. Live and let live diamondgal - this ain't north Korea. If you get your way it won't be long before we take that route.
Wow, I knew my comment would strike a nerve, but to call our local Restaurant & bar owners customers 'uneducated and alcoholic' is something I would only imagine hearing from a communist leader or faschist. Uneducate and alcoholic for riding a bike? I know many successful, highly educated people who like to feel the wind blowing through their hair on a weekend. I also know of some Motorcycle Deputies who might also be very offended by your insults.
#53 Posted by fearisfailure on July 20, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mothernature: thanks for the response and as a business owner I do understand the exempt employee rules. However, I understand from what I have read that this jail lady wasnt even working her minimum number of hours (I think thats 40 per week but it may be different for a deputy?)and then recording that she was. In my mind that is stealing from me and you (and Mr. Ortino)as tax payers. That's just not right. I still dont understand how Mr. Ortino would have or even could have treated her more fairly than what she was. Or the others that were fired for similar (and worse it appears) moral and ethical misdeeds for that matter.
Still voting for Rambosk.
#54 Posted by kbeechnw on July 20, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am sorry I apologize to you fearsinfailure.. But I must have struck your nerve........
Still voting for Rambosk...I too ride motorcyles but with intelligent people not criminals. We know who you are dummy. duh!
#55 Posted by diamondgal on July 20, 2008 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
#57 : "We know who you are dummy. duh!"
Really... PROVE IT. You'd look real smart.
"duh!"
How old are you? The only time I hear that used is on the Disney channel... or was it the Brady Bunch? Can't remember.
#56 Posted by fearisfailure on July 20, 2008 at 2:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Just about everybody on these election blogs sound like six graders. "my daddy can beat up your daddy". "my kid beat up your kid" Does anybody think that they can change the mind of anybody else with what is written here? I'll answer that for ya, NO!. If I were anyone of the candidates I would tell my supporters to keep it professional if they blog at all. The editors here at NDN probably think its funny as all get out to read what everybody writes. Actually, I think it is too.
I am a voter and a relative of a CCSO deputy. He has been with the agency for almost my entire life and I know plenty of deputies. They seem to be a very professional bunch that perform their duties with conscience. Hunter has kept the level of integrity very high. Rambosk will probably take it even higher still.
Support your deputies. The event that just happened in Ft Myers could have happened here just as easily. That cockroach lived in Naples.
#57 Posted by shawshank on July 20, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
kbeechnw,
Actually, they tried to get her for turning on her radio in her cruiser on her way to work and claiming that as work time....Ummm, it IS work time and every other law enforcement agency of which I am aware requires the officers to have their radios on while in the cruiser in case something happens nearby and they can respond. (Whenever they are in their car, they are "on" duty even though they don't necessarily get paid for it.). She was a certified law enforcement officer dual qualified for the jail. She was in command staff at the jail. I'm sure if you only lsiten to one side, it appears she did something wrong. She was advised not to talk because she did nothing wrong. Other people who have recently "fudged" time cards have fallen for a three-day suspension. Another guy is on admin leave right now and will probably keep his job, even though a law suit is pending by the family he falsely arrested, from what I've heard. Hope this explains it a bit more. And, if you want to hear "her" side, I'm sure it's not difficult to find a way to contact her....
#58 Posted by mothernature on July 20, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
OK now I am even more concerned. If I understand you correctly, what this jail lady did was almost identical to what Mr Ortino said happened when he was fired from the FHP. I think that he has set a very bad example in leadership if he has not taught his supporters the lessons he learned the "hard way". I am surprised that deceitful and cheating behaviors are so easily passed off as "everyone was doing it so why am I getting the consequences". That doesn't work for my three kids and it surely doesn't work for someone entrusted with our public safety.
Thanks for taking the time to explain this situation to me, though. Its more information than I have heard from anyone else in Mr. Ortino's campaign.
Still voting for Kevin Rambosk.
#59 Posted by kbeechnw on July 20, 2008 at 5:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mothernature, get your facts straight, she was given a final warning some years ago for her time card issues. She then continued and in fact stayed home and collected time. The radio "on" was only another issue in the investigation. Further, if she worked in the jail what good would a radio do while going to work, she had no law enforcement authority. Read the NDN article or the file at the ccso. Then read the ones on Caperton and Rich. All current members of Ortino Instigations.........
Rambosk August 26th!
#60 Posted by Vetres73 on July 20, 2008 at 6:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
kbeechnw,
for a business man, you apparently have a difficult time understanding that the women in question did nothing wrong about her time card, in fact had worked many hours without renumeration, and was one of those who wouldn't "play the games" within the SO. You are not reading properly, or just want to try to stir the mud. Ummm, Vetres73, she did have law enforcement authority as a certified law enforcement officer, dually certified in the jail. And, any command staff or deputy period, be it a CO or deputy, who has a take-home car and doesn't listen to the radio violates policy in most jurisdictions and a command staff person in the jail NOT getting their head in the game prior to arriving at work is ill-prepared. But, you all seem to know it all and have never actually found out the facts of the case or cases. You just want your candidate to win at any cost, no matter if what is said is libelous, or damaging to a person. I'll leave it at that. Newspapers don't always write every side of every story for a variety of reasons. I encourage everyone to ask the "hard" questions of candidates at the upcoming debates and really search for what is right. I think most people who go into the debates with open minds will see what there is out there. And, talk to the candidates after the debates. I know at least one sticks around for the people while at least one gets out as soon as the debate is over. Go see for yourselves.
#61 Posted by mothernature on July 20, 2008 at 9:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
motherimmature your post is showing typical Ortino lack of education....the word you wanted to use was remuneration (payment) the word you used means to re-number. Or maybe you did mean to use renumeration to explain that BV "re-numbered" her time card from the truth to a lie...hmmmmmm
#62 Posted by grillerdad on July 20, 2008 at 11:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mr. Rambosk admits red-light camera studies do in fact show an increase of accidents at intersections when they're initially installed. He then states the accidents decrease as the public becomes aware of their presence. My question -- Mr. Rambosk, please reveal which Collier County citizens will pay the "butchers bill" as accident victims, while we wait for things to get better at red-light camera intersections as you promise.
There are some things government doesn't knowingly implement when the initial price is too costly for its citizens. Please don't treat the citizens as crash dummies in order to fulfill your political agenda.
#63 Posted by sunnydaze on July 22, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
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