Obamascam:

"We worked on the 'present' vote strategy with Obama," said Pam Sutherland, chief lobbyist for the Illinois branch of Planned Parenthood, an abortion rights group. "He was willing to vote 'no', and was always going to be a 'no' vote for us."

Sutherland said Planned Parenthood calculated that a 'present' vote by Obama would encourage other senators to cast a similar vote, rather than voting for the legislation. "They were worried about direct mail pieces against them. The more senators voted present, the harder it was to mount an issues campaign against the senator."

So, here are some of the laws that Obama voted "present" for, even though he was "always going to be a 'no' vote".

SB 1093 "Law to protect Live-born children" (no need to mention the health of the woman here, it is about the live-born child).

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legis...

# SB 1094 Bill to protect children born as result of induced labor abortion.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legis...

# SB 1095 Bill defining "born alive" defines "born-alive infant" to include infant "born alive at any stage of development."

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legis...

umleed: Your post yesterday about Russia / Georgia failed to mention Putin's desire to control the pipeline in Georgia.

William Conklin -

I agree with John Riccio. The deaths of our service people in Iraq are deaths in vain. They were sent to their deaths by our president George W. Bush or "Bushy". Anyone that supports Bush and the deaths in Iraq have their heads buried in the sand. The war was unnecessary and we were the invaders. I have great sympathy for the families that have lost their loved ones in Iraq. It was very tragic and for nothing. I wish all the service people in Iraq would go AWOL and stop the madness. I think John Riccio is a true patriot.

William Conklin:
If you truly believe what you wrote, then you are a complete "Bush" idiot. I too am a veteran and I believe that those who didn't come back (they know the cost of war more than you or I) would not want one soul to die in vain for any reason, much less for an appointed president who ran from his military committment and started a war for his oil interest and his ego. He is the most disgraceful creature to walk the face of the earth and deserves all the expletives anybody wants to call him. I personally like "The Coward from Crawford", but I'm sure there are more. John Riccio is 100% correct in what he is doing. Those of you who support this war share in the responsibility of the deaths of all those who have died (including Iraqi civilians whose lives are worth every bit as much and the soldiers who have died in the very disgraceful and traitorous war.

Tom Macchia - If President Bush has an approval rating of only 28%, why are you supporting him? I'm dying to know why anyone in their right mind would continue to support his failed policies. If his policies continue, our country will crumble under the weight of our national debt, the collapse of the environment, and the threat of nuclear war. Bush is a war-monger, and if he continues in office much longer, he may plunge the world into a world war. Bush and Cheney are mad-men.

Obamascam:

"My kids have gone to the University of Chicago Lab School, a private school, because I taught there," Obama responded. "It was five minutes from our house. So it was the best option for our kids."

Eddie: Thankfully you are wrong (again).

The deaths of our soldiers were not in vain.

Arlington South is in vain (jfreakios vanity.)

Let us all recall how jfreakio got his name here on this forum.

He was pressed to answer if he had permission to use the names of the fallen soldiers on his crosses.

He refused to answer.

I asked him how he pronounced his name.

He refused to answer.

He now has a moniker from those who despise Arlington South for what it is: A personal protest using other people's names without their family's permission.

Way to go, jfreakio.

BTW - Cindy Sheehan has made the ballot to run for Pelosi's seat in Congress. Do you think she'd be any better?

FTR - He could have simply used crosses, but he used names of people who probably wouldn't have wanted him to.

Amen Colorado. Amen.

Ya gotta admit though that the "Crawford Coward" was one hell of a fighter pilot. Dallas did not suffer a single MIG attack when Jr. protected us while his squadron was in Viet Nam. And don't you dare forget his bravado while strutting down the carrier deck displaying the socks strategically placed in his flight suit by Karl Rove. Cheney missed that event due to one of many deferments.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!!!!!

silly billy, where is your answer? Still coming out of your ___?

MacCluggage has our vote!!!

Mr. Hartwig and Mr. Mitterwager, Your friend MacCluggage may be a nice guy, but we need someone with a bit more backbone to stand up to the current school administration. Curatolo has shown herself to have that kind of leadership in District 2.

In District 4, voters need to think long and hard about which of the many qualified candidates stands the best chance of defeating Abbott, who must go. Sprague seems to have the strongest backing at this point, so I encourage voters to back her since we have to get Abbott off that board now!

They have no answer!

Obama voted "present" (aka, against) 3 bills that recognize a child born alive during a botched abortion as a human being.

There is no excuse, no explanation, no way you can justify that.

GoneCarpFishinOn41,

I guess the civil thing to do would be ban abortion. But I tend to agree with a statement the ultra consrvative David Rockefeller once made.

"The question is not wheter there will be abortion but whether it will be safe."

So we can do the civil thing, outlaw it, force women into unsanitary and unsafe conditions resulting in even more "botched" abortions and mothers deaths.

Or we can let each individual make the decision based upon there own religious beleifs. As guarenteed by the constitution.

Not an answer, boulder boy.

Pay attention to the question:

Obama supports late-term abortions and not giving rights to babies who survive botched abortions.

How can you justify that?

No need to justify what is a personal decision, guarenteed by law, whether by you, me , or PRESIDENT OBAMA. He is entitled to his opinion just as you and I. He is forbidden by law though of imposing his religious beleifs on you, as you are forbidden from imposing your beleifs on him.

If your cult feels it is against Gods will, don't have one. If someone that worships watermelons decides to have one, it is their right.

I'm against abortion just as I am gun ownership. That does not entitle me to tell you what to do with either subject.

I think they call that liberty. I just don't agree with the neocons that Uncle Sam belongs in our bedrooms. Or that we should be forced to pay for Iraqi National Health care. LOL.

Bushy doesn't need Arlington South to embarrass him He does very well without any help.He will go down as the worst president ever. Arlington South is meant to awaken all you morons {mentally retarded}that believe his lies.Evidently I have failed which doesn't surprise me considering what I had to overcome.Our poor brave soldiers have died and continue to die in vain due to this illegal invasion and occupation of a soverign country based on lies.Sort of like what the Russian's do and are now doing.I say to you morons what George Burns use to say to his dippsy wife. Goodnight Gracie

By the way Gone when do you go fishin?
You know we can't miss you if you won't go away.

Mitterwager , MacClugage is already a member of your jock club. He needs to stay on the field and off of the schoolboard. DR.Thompson can carry his own briefcase.

Allgone: "So enough about the big windfall and the mutual funds, etc.
It's a crock."

So Obama's windfall tax is a crock.

FTR - XOM has doubled in five years.

But don't tell boss. He might come up with some non-sense about how everyone has lost money.

As for late-term abortion, if someone can't figure out they want to have an abortion within 3 months (unless there is a health risk), a line has to be drawn somewhere.

As for Barry Obama not supporting the rights of a child born alive after a botched abortion, well that simply shows how far left he truly is.

Obama is too far left for this country.

Algon - you probably should have slept in a bit. What a grouch.

Sorry, your posts gets ignored until you can calm down and stop cutting and pasting yourself into endless rants.

But one last thing about Barry Obama and his "stance" -- voting "present"was another Obamascam so he couldn't be held out as an abortionist.

Obamascam.

MikeM - The truth about those aircraft won't impress these fools any more than the fact that one of McCain's aircraft losses was due to someone else accidentally firing a missile into his plane while he was waiting for take off. The explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

But somehow that was McCain's fault to these loons.

Regardless of who wins the election, it will be obvious who are the fools:
Those of you who claim others twist because your words are completely wrong.

it appears the Russians are not going to honour the ceasefire in Georgia as they are marching towards the capital of Georgia....Tbilisi...this morning

the lure of the oil pipeline and control of the connecting tunnel is too much for Putin

also, it is well know he woud like to expand his empire back to the "glory" days of the USSR

Rejoice....would you care to comment on the story coming out of Illinois that the courts are now slapping a GPS ankle bracelet on the MEN involved in "messy" divorce cases........on the premise "the man may not obey any order the court dictates and attempt to flee".....mind you no decision yet...just preliminary

apparently California has been doing for some time
how radical does this appear to our hate speech law???

I usually don't waste my time rebutting some of you morons here,but today their are so many of you i feel like I should respond to at least one of you.
Gonefishin {Fishy}: since you wish to make it personal I have a few questions for you too.
1> How many of your children served in the military and did any deploy to Iraq?I'm Hoping you had no offspring to continue your defective gene pool.
2>Did you ever serve or are you just another neo-con chicken hawk on this blog.?
3>Seeing as how your so interested in my name lets see if you have the courage to tell us all your real name here in print.I did.I'm betting your just another foul mouth coward and to afraid to have anyone know who you really are.
Please prove me wrong.
Fat chance of that ever happening Fishy

Oh my,

Looks like GoneCarpFishinOnE41 is cornered again.

I think we may have to wait quite a while for a response Mr. Friccio.

In the interim, thank you for you and your children's service. Too bad the current administration sees the kids in uniform as nothing but cannon fodder for Exxon and a tool for further obscene profits for Cheney and his business associates.

Keep posting. It does the neocons good to make them squirm at their computers while trying to justify the worst president in history.

Lately rejoice and GF claim that it is the best investment America could make to pay for a national health care system for the Iraqi's. LMAO.

It's OK to take care of other citizens needs but screw the single mother working two jobs that lives next door. I guess that is the compassionate Conservative rearing its ugly head.

The price of Exxon/Mobil [XOM] almost doubled since 1/21/01, but More than double after Bush jr invaded Iraq.
The stock price of U.S.Steel [X] my previous employer [ all unionized] is up 800% during the same time period.
But the fact is a well diversified portfolio, which most should have, has {lost} money during the same period and when it should have almost doubled, historically.
Just fact's, no spin, no cherry picking numbers or picking stocks that did good.

Your correct John it's too easy to act tough, call names and insult people on this forum. Credit to those who ID themselves like YOU.

Good Morning my fellow bloggers!
The great debaters, boulderbilly, bossman1, Canuck, Algonquin999, jfriccio38, and more. We for the most part have the same views and dilemmas. I say, "It’s a great day for putting the neocons in their place!"
Wouldn’t you agree?

Rejoice...you took me to task yesterday about not answering one of your questions.....knowing how adament you and others of your political stripe about 'not using your hard earned money to fund universal health care" I asked you how you felt about US dollars going to fund the Iraq health care program

of course you do know 45-50 million of your fellow citizens have no health care insurance and several million more are seriously under insured

your response please

Tom Thomson:

So Exxon made $11.7 Billion in profit for the quarter? That's and 8.4% profit. Obama thinks that these are profits that should be subject to a "windfall" profits tax.

Intel made a profit of $1.6 Billion for the quarter. That's a 17% profit. Does Obama think that this profit is too much also? If not, why not? A 17% profit seems to be better than an 8.4% profit. Does Obama mean that it is the actual dollar amount that is too much profit? Or the percentage? Shouldn't we tax Intel at the same rate as Exxon? If not, why not?

Suppose Exxon made $11.7 Billion on $300 Billion of revenue. That's a 3.9% profit. Is that too much?

In other words Obama thinks that a company can be "too profitable" even if it is barely profitable

These are some of the inconsistencies that we are called upon to decide in November.

I don't call $11.7 billion profit "barely profitable".......how much of that lines the pockets of the executives and not the shareholders
the difference between Intel and the oil companies you so dearly love is that oil is a necessary comsumer product and its cost affects the economy, employment, and drives up the cost of living whereas Intel products are non essential....and don't try to feed that right wing mantra..."well don't buy gas" if you don't like the cost because that is a bogus statement

and how fast has that pump price fallen now that the price of oil has dropped $25 plus in the last two weeks....remember how fast and how far it went up when oil jumped $8 in one day

does it work for you???

Re: Post #52

Poor Exxon Mobile...Are you kidding?
Barely profitable?

Remember this? In Feb 2008

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Exxon Mobil made history on Friday by reporting the highest quarterly and annual profits ever for a U.S. company, boosted in large part by soaring crude prices.

Exxon, the world's largest publicly traded oil company, said fourth-quarter net income rose 14% to $11.66 billion, or $2.13 per share. The company earned $10.25 billion, or $1.76 per share, in the year-ago period.

The profit topped Exxon's previous quarterly record of $10.7 billion, set in the fourth quarter of 2005, which also was an all-time high for a U.S. corporation

Exxon also set an annual profit record by earning $40.61 billion last year - or nearly $1,300 per second in 2007. That exceeded its previous record of $39.5 billion in 2006.

Then Published: July 31, 2008
By the Herald Tribune(New York Times)

"Exxon Mobil, the world's largest publicly traded oil company, reported on Thursday that second-quarter income rose 14 percent, to $11.68 billion, the highest-ever for an American company.

Net income of $2.22 a share compared with $10.26 billion, or $1.83 a share, in the quarter a year ago.

Revenue rose 40 percent, to $138.1 billion, from $98.4 billion in the quarter a year ago."

You've got to be kidding me.

Roadhouse,

Exxon is leading the league in profits.

They'll be just fine.
At least until T.Boone gets his natural gas plan up and running.
LOL

Hey Fishy What happened cat got your tongue?
Questions to hard?Gone fishin? Time for your psycho therapy?Poor Fishy has no back bone.

With gasoline today an average of $3.79 per gallon for regular unleaded, filling a 15 gallon fuel tank would cost $56.85. A small portion of that cost is markup from the retailer, but even ignoring the retailer’s profit, if “big oil” were to have made absolutely zero profit on that transaction, that fill-up would have cost $52.07 or a savings of $4.78. That’s almost enough savings to buy a cup of Starbucks coffee. If you were to fill up that 15 gallon tank every week, with “big oil” making zero profit, you would save $248.56 over an entire year. So, the obvious solution is to take all of the profit from “big oil” and give everyone a check for $1000 to make up for the additional $250 they spend on fuel each year due to big oil’s windfall profits.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Re: #144 posted by 3n1gm4
In Yesterday’s letters

I hope you're off the floor by now.
Let me try this again.
Okay, now sit down, because this might come as a blow.

First of all these two words are not opposites.

Without pre-condition means, WITHOUT any pre-existing requirements to take a course of action.
What's the action? They are talking. Now once they start talking, “without pre-condition” is out the window. In other words they have gone past that threshold.

Unconditional means not conditioned, without conditions, absolute. In other words nothing can be changed.

For example unconditional love (an easy one). No matter what you do it's there, right?

Now love without Pre-condition (oh boy). It’s there at first but later it can be taken away.
Now if Obama had agreed to talks without CONDITIONS (minus the pre), we’d have a legitimate debate. Do you see the difference?

Am I confusing you?
Words are a funny thing aren't they?

Okay to elaborate even more:
Somewhere around 1st or 2nd grade you started learning vocabulary. Your teacher may have told you that some English words have prefixes, suffixes, or both. When these word parts are added to the beginning or end of a word, they change the meaning of the word...

The prefix (Pre) usually means before something happens.
The prefix (Un) usually means absence of or without.

So if you ever sign a document that says without pre-conditions (take my advice) it does not mean unconditional. You can rest assured if you don't uphold some sort of task on your part, the conditions will start rolling in.
I hope these threatening countries are as easily confused as you are. We wouldn’t any problems. Education is powerful.

Okay so here's where it gets tricky. Obama still never said he would have unconditional talks with anyone. Wasn’t that the original issue?

Rejoice and 3n1gm4... put that in your pipe and smoke it.

The neocons that love the oil companies here and try to justify their profits by small margins are , quite frankly, delusional. Ask Canuck alluded to, there is a helluva lot of difference between what is and is not discretionary spending.

Ya gotta buy electricity and gas. Look what happened in Ca. when we let the free market reign under Enron's loving care. The same market manipulation is occurring with the oil companies on a nationwide scale. When their greed eventually leads to their nationalization and we are forced to regulate them just like the electric companies, they will have no one to blame but themselves.

Here is something to consider. I only buy fuel from BP since they do not do business with OPEC.

Exxon buys most of their oil from them. If everyone nationwide refused to buy Exxon product, how long do you think it would take for the price at the pump to start dropping? The American consumer seems to have forgotten they have the choice on who to reward with their massive buying power. Let OPEC and Exxon eat their oil until it drops prices dramatically.

Just a thought.

This forum is a perfect example of what is wrong with our country. I can't believe the arrogance some of you portray. Friccio... you make me sick to my stomach. I know that there will always be political divisions, but to see someone who is so blind and closed minded in their beliefs is idiotic... or maybe "moronic" as you continually refer to. Your use of Arlington to push your political agenda is absolutely disgusting. I've seen better tactics out of a used car salesman.

Boulder, your suggestion to purchase from BP to keep OPEC from raking in the majority of the funds sounds like a wonderful idea. The problem is that there is not enough public education on how the oil market works. The common consumer doesn't know who is controling what and where the money is ending up.

Tom Macchia,
Yes, our Congress has more Democrats than Republicans, but if you knew how Congress really worked you would not have written your letter.

Exxons revenues were $359 billion, thier gross profit was $114 billion.
They made this profit while producing less. Made more money by producing less, made more in profits by buying oil and reselling it, more in gas profits by refineing less, buying more, and selling.
The other thing thier doing? Selling off thier assets to foreign counties.
I wonder if they could sell off the new proposed drill sites in Florida if they get them?
Are thier marginal profits high, yes, but asking and getting more tax breaks and give-a-ways from taxpayers is criminal.

re #58 by 3n1gm4.............

using your figures the oil companies only make .091% (less than 1%)

hmm.... wonder where that Exxon $11.7 BILLION profit came from last quarter

collectively...lets all hear an AWE for the poor oil companies profit

or perhaps maybe your figures were skewed???

just asking.......where did Rejoice and Gonefishin go?????

I miss them!!!!

Wow, I go fishing and the whole forum melts down because they can't handle a simple illustration.

The other day, mouldy dilly comes out with a question and demands an answer.

He gets an answer, but refuses to see it.

So, I come up with a question and ask for an answer.

It takes a day before any of you moonbats can come up with something close to an answer

AND YOU ESPOUSE LATE-TERM ABORTION

as some kind of right.

The point made:
You can't come up with answers and you can't see the answers given to you.

Anyone who stands up for late-term abortion really has no sense of anything but being an apologist for

Obama, the one who can't stand for anything but his own election.

#67 by Canuck
"using your figures the oil companies only make .091% (less than 1%)"

Here are the figures that I used:
ExxonMobile’s profit margin = 8.4%
$56.85 X .084 = 4.7754 (rounded up to 4.78)
4.78 X 52 = 248.56

Or to look at it per gallon of gasoline, 3.79 X .084 = 0.31836 or approximately 32 cents per gallon. 15 X .32 = 4.80 (a small difference due to rounding, but essentially the same)

Hey Fishy is back but not answering any of my questions.Tough guy with no back bone.
Imfromhere: if that's what it takes to make you morons sick to your stomach I'm glad to be of service.My last letter printed today is in the hard copy of the NDN.This is for you morons who didn't buy a paper today and need something to get sick over.Happy vomiting.
Editor Naples Daily News
Just heard another speech from Sen. John {Double Talker} McCain about our brave troops.
Too bad his praise doesn’t reflect his voting record on veteran issues.
For instance
The Disable American Veterans has given McCain a 20 percent rating and Obama 80 percent when supporting their issues.
The Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America rated McCain a D and Obama B+.
The Vietnam Veterans of America stated McCain voted against their interests17 times out of 26 and Obama voted with them all but once.
Vote Vets.org is galled by McCain’s public opposition to the latest G.I. bill which he didn’t even have the courage to vote on.Some hero.Sort of like future deniability as I didn’t vote against the G.I.bill .
As the saying goes “With friends like McCain who needs enemies”.
As for being a hero he just doesn’t measure up.
General Wesley Clark emphasized being shot down and imprisoned doesn’t qualify you to be president and I’ll add it doesn’t make you a hero either. To me and many other veterans a hero is someone who does something “above and beyond the call of duty”Like saving someone else’s life while endangering yours.
I do not deny praise and admiration for all who served their country especially those who had to endure wounds and captivity ,but please lets not degrade the actions of true heros like
John Kerry,Chuck Hagel,Wesely Clark and so many others who’s actions were
“ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY”

John F. Riccio

Thank you John Riccio, again you bring us a good deal of information. You certainly know what you're talking about. Too bad your letter that was in the paper today wasn't printed above. Looks like the Naples News is treating you pretty disrespectfully when you have earned a good deal of our respect by all the hard work and care you give to our veterans and honoring our dead.

Your letter cited:

"Disabled American Veterans gave McCain, because of his voting record, a 20% rating and gave Obama an 80% rating. It looks like Obama cares more for our veterans than McCain.

The Vietnam Veterans of America stated McCain voted against its interests 17 times out of 26, and Obama voted with them all but once.

VoteVets.org is galled by McCain's public opposition to the latest GI Bill which he didn't even have the courage to vote on."

My comments: So much for McCain caring about our soldiers. And since he he'll need a bunch more troops for his invasion of Iran, he'll need money for the invasion; forget the injured soldiers left behind, the victims of all this lunatic war mongering.

Looks like McCain's an addict for war. Can't get enough of it. He's even making "big cheese" statements against Russia. Big tough guy, McCain now wants to take on Russia.

What a total nitwit. What a senile old man and poor excuse for someone who should know better.

The great deal of work John goes through putting up those crosses during the year only comes because he cares so much for those dead soldiers.

If you knew John you'd know he is sincere in honoring them. Yes, he does feel they were used by Bush and Cheney, and died because of their lies, but that makes a person's heart break even more because it didn't have to be. They didn't have to die if we didn't have those hateful, greedy warmongers in the whitehouse who care about no one but themselves.

Well, John cares, and no one could care more than he does, and the Naples Daily News ought to be totally ashamed of itself for honoring that terrible letter criticizing John by making it Letter Of The Day.

"The Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said Georgia had paid enough for its attack on South Ossetia, a separatist region with close ties to Russia."

"Hundreds, perhaps thousands were believed to have died since Georgia launched its crackdown on South Ossetia on Thursday, drawing the punishing response from its much larger neighbor."

Saakashvili, Georgian Pres., told reporters he agreed to the "general principles in the cease-fire plan negotiated by French Pres. Nicolas Sarkozy, but he saw no reason to sign it as it was only a political document."

Does that tell all of you something? Does Georgia have any responsibility for what's happened?

Well, I'd say Georgia has a lot, and now the blame is trying to be transferred solely to Russia.

Let's be fair about this. Russia's reaction or punishment may have been extreme, but what did Georgia think was going to happen? Are they nuts.

I know I want us to have no part of this dispute, and John McCain certainly doesn't speak for me when he says,"Today we're all Georgians." Like, "in your face Russia." Now Russia is being punished. How about Georgia for invading a little province next to it? What is going on here. It smells to me.

Truthmatters...you and I are usually in sync on many of your posts but here I must part with your comment in #76

no question that Georgia started the firefight on South Ossetia which was their territory...however Russia had been agitating in that area for some time...even to the point of issuing Russian passports to their citizens...Russia also fermented a strong separatist group who were preparing for armed conflict as the fighting broke out...and they knew full well Russia with their vast war mchine would come to their assistance

note also that Georgia's internet access was jammed two weeks prior to the fighting...first with a server out of the US and latterly with a server out of Moscow

up to that point it really was an internal Georgia matter and Russia had no business interferring

at stake is Putin's desire to expand the Russian empire; control of the very profitable tunnel connecting Georgia to Russia and above all the oil pipeline that relieves Georgia of any dependance on Russia's oil

Russia was also worried about Georgia's request to join NATO and several other European alliances

their true purpose was shown this am after saying they would honour the cease fire and pull back they invaded further into Georgia

I think the Ukraine should now be on red alert

“Beijing – With a fifth gold medal hung around his neck last night, Michael Phelps is well on his way to surpassing Mark Spitz’s record seven gold medals from the 1972 Olympics and has to date received eleven career Olympic gold medals, vaulting him past Spitz and Carl Lewis among others for the Olympic record. And, the race is not yet over for Phelps. He is expected to win another three gold medals (bringing his career total to an astonishing fourteen) and shatter even more world records.

“Presidential candidate Senator Barrack Obama (D., Ill) was quick to respond when asked how he felt about the news. “I think it does much to hurt our international relations and how we are perceived as being a nation that wants to overpower everyone else. When I am anointed President, one of my first official actions will be to strip Phelps of thirteen of those medals and reward them to athletes from countries that did not perform as well.”

“A spokesperson for the Obama campaign, speaking on condition of anonymity privately told this reporter that the President elect misspoke and that only one of the medals would be given to another athlete and the other twelve would be given to the US Treasury.”

jfreakio: you never answered my questions a long time ago, why would I answer yours today?

One last time:
You disgrace yourself by using other people's names without their permission or the permission of their families.

I do my best not to read your letters or your posts (got caught again reading without looking at the name, but fortunately, didn't get past "tough guy with no back bone"). Hey, tough guy, didn't you threaten to kick someone in the groin a little while ago?

Give it up. It's the internet.

Go stand on a beach with a cross in your hands crying "The end is coming! The end is coming!"

And know you are doing no good whatsoever.

Why don't you join the Patriot Guard? Too busy with the Westboro Baptist Church?

Are you people watching the news, or just pontificating from your pulpit? Russia is moving into Georgia forcefully. They want the pipeline and the political control it will give them over Europe via its energy.

Georgia probably shouldn't have fired missiles last week, but the truth is coming out. They could never have taken the Russians, but their fight looks provoked.

Maybe the truth will someday matter.

Canuck: Not you. Missed your last post.

truth & Not2,

Here is how Barack is going to take care of the future of your children:

At its founding, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was made up of three constituent parts:

1 - The Chicago School Reform Collaborative, co-chaired by William C. Ayers;
2 - A Board of Directors initially RECRUITED BY THE COLLABORATIVE, which Ayers chose Barack as Chair from 1995 to 2000 by
3 - The Chicago Schools Research Consortium, a research arm of the Challenge.

Now if you are Billy Ayers and have this $110+ million dollars, that you want spent for your ideology, who do you get to run the operation. Someone with similar views (a radical socialist) like your self, or someone with a background in conservative education?????

Interesting choice. How to get those millions funneled to other communist friends and not funneled to educators with American values??? I guess you have to load the deck.

See #2 above for Bill Ayers choice for Board Chairman, someone that agreed with his political philosophy and goals

The Challenge funneled millions of dollars into "reform" groups, including $175,000 to the Small Schools Workshop. The Workshop had been established in the early 1990s by William Ayers who hired Mike Klonsky, A CHICAGO CAB DRIVER with a Ph.D. in education from the University of South Florida ............... and former activist with Ayers in SDS.

Klonsky had achieved limited notoriety in 1977 when he traveled to Beijing multiple times to seek the endorsement of Communist China for a political party he had helped establish in the United States, the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist)............. Barack, as Chairman of the Board approved of giving a Communist Chicago Cab Driver $175,000???

Can this be true truthmatters?
Has to be a lie!!

There was criticism by one Challenge board member, Arnold Weber, a business sector representative and former President of Northwestern University, who saw the Councils as a potential "political threat"..... Former President of Northwestern University (must be a communist radical) saw a political threat??? (promoting capitalism)

The Board would engage in fundraising and approval of grants. The Board also hired a Executive Director, Ken Rolling, from Woods Fund of Chicago where Barack & Ayers were board members with the control of millions more..

The Research Consortium was responsible for assessing the impact of the expenditure of the Challenge's grant money. Ironically, they concluded that the $110 million spent in Chicago over six years HAD LITTLE OR NO IMPACT ON OUTCOMES FOR STUDENTS.

By the way, Barack describes Ayers as "a guy who lives in my neighborhood". Kind of like Uncle Jeremiah Wright.

La La La La La La Not True, I can't Hear You, Lies, nothing but lies. La La La La La La Not True, I can't Hear You, Lies, nothing but lies.La La La La La La Not True, I can't Hear You, Lies, nothing but lies.

Canuck, since these developments involving Ossetia are quite new to most of us, I can only go on what I'm reading now.

I have read that the Province of Ossetia has been independent since the early 90's and is allied with Russia. If they want to be independent of Geogia, don't they have that right? It seems to me Georgia declared it's independence from Russia and that is accepted, so why not accept the declared independence of Ossetia?

And, why would Georgia invade Ossetia? What business does Georgia have in Ossetia's affairs?

Also, since Ossetia is aligned with Russia, did Georgia think Russia would do nothing? Or, could Russia use this not only to protect Ossetia, but also to advance its own agenda? Georgia can't be that dumb.

So, consider this, perhaps Georgia wants Russia to incur the wrath of the West in order to advance its own, (Georgia's) goals.

It's no question when oil is involved, it's hard to tell how much that plays into the scheme of things, but can't you agree with me that both have blame to take, along with feeling some justification.

And why won't Georgia sign that peace agreement offered by France's Sarkozy?

Other than to help, if we can, stop the fighting, we should stay out of it. We're in no moral position to point fingers at anyone.

And, -- we certainly don't need to get involved in more disputes and trouble.

without taking sides in a political diagreement the diatribe posted in #82 has to be the most vicious personal attack I have seen on this blog

certainly our civility rises above that!!!

So Rejoice,

What do you think of this guy Riccio.

Rejoice. Tell us what you really think.

Truthmatters...if you follow the break up of the Soviet Union....North Ossetia stayed in the Russian sphere whereas the south of the province belonged to Georgia...notwithstanding the fact many citizens of the south wanted to be with Russia....which played into Russia's hands

we do agree that the west should stay out of it and let the Europeans settle the matter.....although no one will stop the Russian war machine

And Rejoice, don't hold back.

If you're gonna get booted....GO DOWN IN FLAMES!!!!!!!

Uh, Oh.

"TBILISI (Reuters) - President George W. Bush's pledge to send aid to Georgia means that the U.S. military will take control of the ex-Soviet state's ports and airports, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said on Wednesday."

http://www.reuters.com/article/politi...

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double UH. OH ...and another OH! OH!

MikeM......does this answer your question?

Why Georgia matters - 250km of gas pipeline 9:59AM Tuesday August 12, 2008 By Claire Soares
Georgia may have no natural resources to speak of, yet it has become a key player for Europe, due to 250km of pipeline that snakes across its territory.

The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline is the only practical route for carrying Caspian oil to Western markets that avoids Russia - a treasured asset for the a European Union trying to reduce energy dependence on Moscow.

The BTC, which connects More..Baku in Azerbaijan, via the Georgian capital Tbilisi with Ceyhan, a port on the south-eastern Mediterranean coast of Turkey, was once billed as the "pipeline of peace".

Algonquin999

I suppose Wikipedia is ultrarightwing to those that believe in the multitude of failures of socialism. Moveon.org??? Middle of the road??

They just need the right leadership for socialism to thrive, right Algon?

I must say, Barack has the credentials to give it a try for the 846th time.

The Russians can have Georgia. The minute they cross into the panhandle, all bats are off. The Swamp must be protected at all cost's.

Mr. Riccio,

You can say what you wish but your anger is bound to bother others. You reach out for it, you may even enjoy agravating others. My past includes 2 Army years, one in Vietnam, 4th Division. Frankly Sir, you do not represent my feelings nor the majority of my friends and associates in the Naples community. Quite simply I feel you are a fool. However you do indeed have the right to act as you wish. I, as do many others, have the privledge to disagree.

ExxonMobil CEO and chairman Rex Tillerson says, "I saw someone characterize our profits the other day in terms of $1,400 in profit per second. Well, they also need to understand we paid $4,000 a second in taxes, and we spent $15,000 a second in cost," Tillerson told ABC News' Charles Gibson. "We spend $1 billion a day just running our business. So this is a business where large numbers are just characteristic of it."

But Obama plays on the suckers to pander for votes and you just suck it right up.

re post #103.......so what!..when all is said and done the PROFITS are $1,400 PER SECOND....
how you got there is irrevelant...it's all about the bottom line!!!

I was intrigued by Rejoice's venting in post #82 whereas he said John Friccio lied when "he said" the disabled veterans association (DVA) endorsed Obama

Rejoice is correct the DVA does not endorse any political candidates

But that is not what Friccio's post # 73 said

he said the DMV gave McClain a 20% rating and Obama an 80% rating on voting for veterans benefits and if you read the report that is correct

a little skewing of the words????

Algonquin999...thank you for your post #99....I thought my mathematics were screwed up

Posts #53 and #103: In other words, businesses must be limited in how much profit they can make. Businesses must not be allowed to make "too much" profit, whatever that means.

Canuck, it's not your math that's screwed up. It's the "who cares how much money a company makes when the bottom line is a percentage?"

Seriously, why can't liberals get this concept and always look for some scapegoat because they can't make it on their own?

But what, you say, about those poor people who need to drive, got suckered into a bad mortgage, etc.

Percentages seem to be hard for liberals.