The Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) was the first chance for Barry to take on a serious EXECUTIVE role in a political environment. The Challenge and BARRY FAILED BADLY.

The research conducted by The University of Chicago, where Michelle works, concluded that the Annenberg Challenge was a failure. $160,000,000 down the drain and no improvement in student outcomes. Six years and 160 million. Maybe Barry will blame his 6 year co-chair Billy Ayers for the failure.

The Milt Rosenberg show (WGN radio Chicago) was the subject of a wave of hostile attacks from followers of the Obama campaign because Milt had the nerve to put on his show Dr. Stanley Kurtz, a journalist and conservative intellectual. Dr. Kurtz has been writing a series of articles on Obama and, in particular on Obama’s political activities while in Chicago, including the 6 year relationship between Barry and Billy Ayers during the CAC from 1995 to 2001.

Milt Rosenberg has been a Radio fixture for over 25 years at WGN. wgnradio.com to listen

Kurtz was in Chicago to examine the records of the CAC held at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC) where Ayers is a professor. UIC had invited him to look at the records and then, very oddly, revoked their invitation. Then they reversed course again and invited him back with no guarantee documents are complete.

During the radio show, hundreds of calls directed by the Obama campaign, read off talking points alleging that Dr. Kurtz, and by implication and sometimes directly, Milt Rosenberg, was “smearing” Barack Obama and finding Obama “guilty by association.” They also accused Kurtz of lying, yet, when pressed for specifics, the callers had none.

The CAC for 6 years with Ayers is in addition to Barack Obama’s 8 year tenure with the Woods Foundation, where he worked with the domestic terrorist Ayers and which issued a $75,000 grant to Yasser Arafat toady Rashid Khalidi.

Barry’s other $70,000 director fee gig, was while director at the Joyce Foundation he funneled almost $3 million in grants to political groups opposing gun rights. His presidential campaign has worked to assure gun owners that he believes the Constitution protects their rights and that he doesn’t want to take away their guns.Who is lying, Barry or Campaign??

Billy Ayers?????

Per Barry “Oh he’s some guy from my neighborhood “

(that 23rd precinct cops protect from threats WHILE VISITING AT BARRY’S mansion)

Barry lost 9 of 14 primaries after the world learned that Rev Wright was a PAID advisor to his campaign. With more and more irrefutable proof of his & Michelle’s association with bomber Billy and cop killer Bernadine Dohrn, he will continue his down hill slide.

The whole episode was reminiscent of Obama’s first IL Senate run… where his legal team systematically eliminated all primary competitors by challenging ALL petition signatures…

Barry had a relationship with Ayers beyond that of another guy in the ‘hood.

2008 Presidential Election
4 hrs ago

Sarah Palin faked pregnancy
Palin's fifth child, Trig Paxson Van Palin, may not be her son, but her grandson. Photos and school records suggest that Sarah Palin's sixteen year old daughter, Bristol Palin, is the mother of Trig Paxson."

Oh oh. Please don't tell me mini me didn't have this soccer mom vetted?

This could get very interesting.

And who exactly is the real Daddy?

Is the new neocon theme song gonna be a banjo player on a bridge?

Deliverance us from evil!!!!!

LOL.

"JUNEAU -- Gov. Sarah Palin shocked and awed just about everybody around the Capitol on Wednesday when she announced she's expecting her fifth child.

The governor, who recently turned 44, told a handful of reporters as she was leaving work to expect a new member of the first family, then headed to a reception at the Baranof Hotel to feast on king crab.

Palin said she's already about seven months along, with the baby due to arrive in mid-May.

That the pregnancy is so advanced astonished all who heard the news. The governor, a runner who's always been trim, simply doesn't look pregnant.

Even close members of her staff said they only learned this week their boss was expecting.

Apparently her teenage daughter was out of school, unseen, for months, because she "had mono".

I'm not quite sure what to think of this. Seeing as how she opposes abortion even in cases of rape and incest maybe she's actually not a hypocrite."

Oh my. Another storm besides Gustav is gathering on the neocon horizon? What else could possibly go wrong?

Mini me and his mentor certainly follow Murphy's Law to the letter.

LOL.

One of you liberal/some dems said whether sarcastically or not, Sarah Palin one heart beat away from the presidency. Based on her background, no problemo!

How about this for a thought? Braco possibly the
next president of the USA, had friends and associates such as Ayers...Rev Wrong...Rezko...Father nutso...Farakon!!! Leans towards socialism and Marxism!! Big problemo!!!

This a democracy!!!!??? Freedoms abound. You can be all you can be but it is up to you! There is no doubt that the "majority of our God loving citizens" feel/think this way and will prove it this coming NOVEMBER!

Those who desire hand outs, believe that what's yours is mine and you are entitled to reap what the other person sows, then Braco/Joe Personality are your soul mates.

Peter LaFortune: After reading your "letter", I am reminded about the real estate agent this week that told me business is "great". He even had a smile on his face. I remain incredulous.

C'mon Junior,
Post #2 is a bit over the line, don't ya think?
Not the best way to win over folks to your point of view.
I think it's gonna be an exciting race, don't you?

Love,
Grandma

Rezko buys land Obama can't afford, but it's just A-OK for a slumlord to buy things for folks!!

RE: #1 Chidem - I see you have returned to "the scene of the crime" in more ways than one. Really, $160,000,000? That looks like "oil money", maybe their quarterly profits? ( for one or two of course) Better check to be "sure".

#8 MikeM 1981 Really? You wanna go back? Let's go back to Watergate and Spiro Agnew, another GOP stalwart Veep. That's pretty close and makes for better comparisons in this campaign.

#5 Knital I sure hope Obama learned his "lesson" and doesn't let any of those "shaddy characters" in his retinue from here on. It would be a shame if he got elected and guys like Abramoff came a "visiting" like during the Bush administration. What a "stain" that would put in the Lincoln bedroom. Save that "sperm".

Oh my,

Capt. mini me's ship of state has apprently hit an iceberg.

I'm not sure if it is a good idea to have a VP under indictment for abuse of office.

http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/22...

Billy, indicted, really, show us.
Hyperbole, yes.
Indictment, no.

Rejoice....you are such a phoney......when you and your ilk spin lies on the forum I will point them out because in most cases they are so blatant...as in the case of ACORN and Washington State where you tell only half the story...what you so conveniently left out was that the Washingon Attorney General refused to prosecute anyone in the supposed voter fraud because "there was no crime committed"

as for my interest in the political comments...I have not commented on your political process but you have repeated insulted my country and stated your racist comments against French Canadians

BTW...you would have me believe all those right wing sites that lambast Obama and Acorn

would you also want me to believe all the left wing sites that says the info in post # 2 is correct??

you have been outed so many times on this forum for your racism...your half truths and your outright lies...it's only your anonymity that keeps you here

Mike Klonsky, the Maoist Hardliner, Obama supporter and best friend of the Weatherman terrorist group founders William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, received a $175,000 grant from the William Ayers/Barack Obama-led Annenberg Challenge while he was a cab driver in Chicago.

Klonsky belonged to the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) with William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn

Between 1979 and 1981, Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) (CPML) chairman and Obama supporter Mike Klonsky was repeatedly feted with state-dinner-level visits to Beijing.

Klonsky was posting a blog on the Obama website.

WAS. There is no longer any sign of him. Gone completely.

Comrade Klonsky is no longer on the web site.

Recall what would happen in Soviet Russian textbooks when a trotskyist got purged by Uncle Joe, as Klonsky lovingly recalls the dictator Joseph Stalin at this reunion of SDS in November of last year in Chicago: their pictures would quickly get airbrushed out of the old photographs, without any explanation.

Al, sometimes your posts border on insane.

William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn and all of the Weathermen were/are terrorists and cop killers. The reasons that they did what they did are unjustifiable. Your reasons for defending them are as equally unjustifiable.

Obama sat on two boards that I am aware of with Bill Ayers. They were co-chairs on at least one. People have pointed out that that they were failures at accomplishing what they were trying to get done. I don't care if they were successful or failed. I do care that the democratic nominee sat side by side with this terrorist for years to "fight the good fight" and now just claims he was one of the guys from the neighborhood. What a load of crap. And this is the nominee of your party? My God, is there no one else you dummies could have come up with. Bill Richardson, Hillary, Joe Biden as the nominee, but WOW! Seriously, a guy who speaks well? That's it?

McCain/Palin 2008

Al- They bombed Federal Buildings and Police Departments in the United States of America. They are terrorists to this country and heroes to idiots only like yourself. Same as bin Laden is a terrorist to the people of this country and a hero to al Queada and jihadists worldwide.

Obama knew what Ayers did in the 60's and 70's and defended him as just another guy from the neighborhood. Are you so obtuse that you can't see that is a problem?

Al- In case you need help here is the definition.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/obtuse

Although Obama's leadership at ACORN got very little(nothing)accomplished for the people for which it was intended, here is an article on what Obama's association was able to get accomplished for Obama. Yeah, sure, Change we can Believe in my ass.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/22/...

My goodness, the more I google Obama's name and various issues with him as a candidate, the more disgusted I am. Seriously, where is your real candidate. Where is Hillary, where's Bill Richardson, Joe Biden anyone? Nope! You dummies left us with Obama. I am not a big fan of John McCain, but dagnabit you have left me with no choice.

Al- In case you don't get my point here are some synonyms for obtuse. Psst, that means that they have similar meanings.

Blockheaded, dense, doltish,dumb, thick-headed, thick-witted, hebetudinous(???), ignorant and STUPID.

Some of this is as about as bizarre as believing that Obama is one of Jessie Jackson's love children!

Never fear you Neapolitan conservatives.

Americans can always figure out a way to justify voting for the dumb guy and denigrating the smart one.

We don't need a smart, well-educated President. Right? The dumber, the better.

Some idiot brought up Spiro Agnew. He's dead. He's not running.

Obama is comrades with cop-killing communist terrorists whose failed re-education programs are still deep in their minds.

Obama is bone-headed enough to let a slumlord help him buy a house.

But liberals aren't seeing that because they want this communist change to come about.

Sounds like Barry. Just because I hang out with criminals and let them help me buy a mansion, well, er, uh, ah, that doesn't make me a crook or a phony.

"Barack Obama has made his economic thinking excruciatingly clear, so it also is clear that his running mate should have been not Joe Biden, but Rumpelstiltskin. He spun straw into gold, a skill an Obama administration will need in order to fulfill its fairy-tale promises.

"This senator, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, is going to get a huge, complex industry to produce, and is going to get a million consumers to buy," plug-in cars.

How?

http://townhall.com/columnists/George...

Gonefishin........you are repeating the same old mantra regarding Obama's house....I repeat my post to you yesterday and again invite you to tell me where it is wrong....tell me where you got your info from so I can look at that

Gonefishin......this story has intriqued me for some time so I have looked at every story that I could find....from both sides and the middle...and all say that the Obama's bid for the house was the highest bid (according to the real estate agent) of several bids....no "discount"
Rezko's wife bought the vacant land for market value and according to the doctor who owned both properties he insisted both sales close the same day
Obama admits he could not afford to buy both the house and the vacant lot at that time
Rezko's wife later sold a strip of the lot to Obama for $104 thousand plus and then later sold the rest to another party for an overall profit of about $55,000
the only "fly in the ointment" if you will was the optics of doing a business deal with Rezko's wife while he was under indictment...which Obama says he regrets
#101 Posted by Canuck on August 31, 2008 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Re #34 Gonefishin "states": "Some IDIOT brought up Spiro Agnew, he's dead. He's not running."

Well Thank God he's dead! The inference is to connect "good old corrupt" Spiro to other "great GOP Veeps, like Dan Quail - you know the potato vs. potatoe guy", "Darth Vader" Shoot em high, shoot em low Cheney and the current "flying nun" Sarah Palin! Too deep for a carp fishing "bull head" like you, Gonefishin.

It's understandable that these "facts' are hard for a "skank" like you to comprehend, but bigots have that trait which is seldom curable. Justice prevails. It did with Spiro Agnew! It will with you too.

DM, Gonefishin, Rejoice, et al, Where is KEN STARR when YOU need him? Get him out of "retirement" or whatever "nut house" he is in and appoint him "official investigator of the realm". Surely Bushie can do that for you loyal "folks". The RNC can "sponsor" the "drive" to put Obama in jail. It might take a little while until they find room after removing all the Republicans "serving" time now! Oh, Scooter is out and so is that guy from Ohio, Neld or something. I forget. There are too many to remember (GOP strategy) and it is an exercise in frustration.

Canuck, you pretty much have the story (except they paid $300,000 less for the house, but the property went for the asking price). Why don't you see something wrong in this? Even Barry called it bone headed.

Meanwhile, Rezko was testifying in court that he had no money. Where did the money come from? Was it stolen from Iraq during the power plant deal? There is a pretty good indication that it was.

"The London Times reports that, three weeks before the land transactions, Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi billionaire living in London, loaned $3.5 million to Mr. Rezko, who was his Chicago business partner. Mr. Auchi's office says he had "no involvement in or knowledge of" the property purchase. Mr. Auchi is a press-shy property developer (estimated worth: $4 billion) who was convicted of corruption in France in 2003 for his involvement in the Elf affair, the biggest political and corporate fraud inquiry in Europe since World War II. He was fined $3 million and given a 15-month prison term that was suspended provided he committed no further crimes.

"Mr. Auchi was also a top official in the Iraqi oil ministry in the 1970s. He has for years vigorously denied charges he had dealings with Saddam Hussein after the first Gulf War. However, an official report to the Pentagon inspector general in 2004 obtained by the Washington Times cited "significant and credible evidence" of involvement by Mr. Auchi's companies in the Oil for Food scandal and illicit smuggling of weapons to the Hussein regime.

"In 2003, Mr. Auchi began investing in Chicago real estate with Mr. Rezko. In April 2007, after his indictment, Mr. Auchi loaned another $3.5 million to Mr. Rezko, a loan that Mr. Rezko hid from U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald's office. When Mr. Fitzgerald learned that the money was being parceled out to Mr. Rezko's lawyers, family and friends, he got Mr. Rezko's bond revoked in January and had him put in jail as a potential flight risk."

As one person posted

------------What you call terrorists,
some called heroes.--------------

That sums up the debate here

Those extreamists professing socialist/communist agendas of Ayers, Klonsky, Wright, Obama

Those extreme strict constitutionalist Christians of the far right like Palin

And then John McCain in the middle with mish mash .

Gonefishin ....thanks for your reply...I still see nothing wrong with the purchase price of the home...as per the statements of the owner...see this article from PoltiFact.com a division of St.Petersburg Times...June 19/08"

"Now Obama did pay $300,000 less than the asking price for a century-old mansion he and his wife, Michelle, purchased from a Chicago doctor in 2005 for $1.65-million.

And on the same day the Obamas closed on their house, Rezko’s wife, Rita Rezko, bought a vacant lot next door from the same seller, at the full asking price of $625,000. Obama said it was his understanding that there was another offer for the vacant lot at or near the asking price, thereby setting the market.

Donna Schwan, with MetroPro Realty, which listed both the house and the vacant lot, recalled that there were several offers on both the house and the lot, though she could not remember the amount of those other offers and said she has since discarded the offer sheets.

“The most important thing to the sellers was to close on the same day,” Schwan said, as they did not want one of the properties to sit unsold, alone.

The sellers also required the buyers to put off the closing until June 15, after their children had gotten out of school.

The fact that the Rezkos agreed to purchase the vacant lot on that date in mid June “could have been to their (the Obamas’) advantage, absolutely,” Schwan said.

“Each was contingent on the other selling,” she said.

One could certainly argue that the Rezkos’ purchase solidified the Obamas’ purchase. And that may have some value. But whether that saved the Obamas $300,000 is another matter. The GOP offers no proof that the price paid by the Obamas was anything other than a matter of negotiation, or that the Obamas would have had to pay $300,000 more if not for the Rezkos’ purchase.

The Obama campaign has posted an e-mail from the seller, Frederic Wondisford, in which he specifically confirmed that the Obamas’ offer of $1.65-million was the best offer received on the house. In fact, the seller rejected two lower offers from the Obamas before the two sides settled at $1.65-million.

Further, the seller confirmed that he did not offer the Obamas a discount on the price of the house “on the basis of or in relation to the price offered and accepted on the lot” purchased by Rezko. Lastly, Wondisford confirmed that it was he who insisted the closing for the two properties be completed on the same day.

Having the Rezkos as flexible buyers on the vacant lot might have helped the Obamas get the house they had been trying to buy, but there's just nothing to suport the GOP claim that the Rezkos saved the Obamas $300,000. We rule this GOP claim False.

The following year, the Obamas purchased a one-sixth strip of the Rezkos’ vacant lot"

Yeah Rejoice, you are truelly grasping at straws. I imagine his "connection" also completed the work load that resulted in him graduating #3 in his class at Harvard Law.

Mini me is smart too.

Rejoicde, where did he graduate in his class at the Naval Acadamy? And please, we will wait, while you explain why mini me's daddy being an Admiral had no influence on his appointment to the Acadamy.

You guys are dancing soo hard you're condeming the opposition what are PRESIDENT OBAMA'S greatest assets while pointing the spotlight on mini me's greatest weaknesses.

Now, you were gonna tell us about influence on getting into school and than what each candidate did with that oppurtunity.

LMAO.

You might as well emphasize mini me's flying skills also if you want to make him appear to be a complete failure.

Just like his mentor. A blue blooded daddys boy with a chip on his soldier, a hell of a temper.

so the resident racist appears and now adds Catholics to the list of hate....keep going Rejoice....... you are soon going to run out of people to hate and that is really going to crimp your style.......

you can post anything you want from right wing sites and there is always another site to refute....
following is from thelonggoodbye.wordpress.com

"It didn’t take much to get on some kind of list in the 1950s. A Google search shows that some variation of this meme - Davis was a supposedly a communist and Obama’s acknowledgment of Davis as an influence of course equals that Obama is a secret commie has been floating around for a while. One of the things that should make people take pause is the newsgroup’s promulgation of an article that describes Davis as a “socialist realist”. The clever addition of three little letters makes all the difference. Davis biographers and historians refer to Davis as a “social realist”. I can find no paper by Davis or any expert on Davis that describes him as a “socialist realist”. Davis was a newspaper writer and editor in addition to being a poet. He certainly had the time and opportunity in a long carreer to spell out his thoughts. As of this writing I can’t find any writings by him that states his allegiance to communism. On the contrary he warned the civil rights movement not to move in that direction. There is also the meme that Davis didn’t join the Communist Party until the fifties and even then he kept it a secret - as of this writing I cannot find any verification of that. Even if true the implication that Obama became a secret communist simply because he knew Davis is absurd guilt by association. From The Voice of the World: The Early Career of Frank Marshall Davis 1931- 1934 by Leonard Ray Teel, Associate Professor, Department of Communication, Georgia State University"

Barack Obama was brought up in the Chicago Democrat political machine. Patronage, corruption and influence peddling has been perfected.

There were thousands of opportunities for Barry to speak out against this Democrat machine corruption – but every time an opportunity presented itself, Obama said "how much can I get out of this?"

Sarah Palin, on the other hand, has a history of going after her own party, even her own party chairman, when there is corruption to be exposed and eliminated.

Imagine Richey Daley if Sarah was involved in Chicago Politics. Chicago would have to rebuild the stockyard to hold all the crooks.

oldtimer and rejoice...you are a disgrace to
serious minded people..spewing those lies and
mistruths...remember gobbels in hitler's germany
he used the the same techniques about the jews, catholics
etc..go under your rocks and stay there.

When is Ms. Palin going to release the birth records of her latest child?

Who is the real birth mother?

Who is the real birth father?

Is Downs Syndrome a risk factor of incest?

Inquiring readers want to know.

Some good news about the Hero McCain: Aparently he can sing! The POW camp he stayed in had a nickname for him. He was known as 'songbird'. It is reported he recieved that name from his fellow POW's in camp.
After his release in an interview with U.S News he admitted he gave military info to his captors for better medical care even before he was tortured. Add this to his signed statements and recordings used for propaganda it seems he earned the 'songbird' nick.
McCain a hero? I don't think so.

MM, I'm not right wing! WOW, Another centrist is born.

Having the Rezkos as flexible buyers on the vacant lot might have helped the Obamas get the house they had been trying to buy, but there's just nothing to suport the GOP claim that the Rezkos saved the Obamas $300,000. We rule this GOP claim False.

The following year, the Obamas purchased a one-sixth strip of the Rezkos’ vacant lot"

#47 Posted by Canuck on September 1, 2008 at 9:56 a.m.

Rezko's wife bought the lot as Rezko was bankrupt at the time and under indictment at the time. His wife's income was $35,000 a year at the time.

An Iraqi supposedly gave the money to Rezko to by the lot. The federal attorney who indicted Rezko, cancelled Rezko's bond when he heard about the money going to Rezko because he felt he could be a flight risk.

Indicted and facing many years in jail and his wife invests in a vacant lot with money they don't have and payments they can't make.

Looks like there were many "boneheads" as Barry described them, in this transaction.

But Canuck says there is nothing to this transaction that could be unethical, even for a person running for president.

This does not appear to be logical thought.

This is a good quality for a potential POTUSA.

Not slaughtering her baby or daughters baby is a bad quality for a potential VP.

Don't you people ever get tired of calling each other idiots and morons and saying the same things every day? It gets very tiresome.

Aren't there any rules to go by? There should be. Letters to the Editor have rules. Why aren't there any here? I don't understand it.

Labor day, congrads to all of us who worked hard for ourselves, families and in the process helped make our country as great as is.
For the American workers, labor organizations, and the businesses and corperations that employ these workers lets remember them today.
The sky is getting bluer, times will be soon be better. A special thanks to 'Albert Gore' who has made it possible to post on the internet, Thanks AL.

billy,

How did incest creep into your sorry little tale about Sarah Palin's youngest child? For your information, Downs Syndrome appears almost exclusively in children born to mothers over the age of 35. The condition occurs due to the mother's eggs deteriorating over time. It is practically unheard of in teenage mothers.

Even if the situation you are suggesting turns out to be true, it will elicit only sympathy from most people, who will see a woman doing her best to protect her family. That is instinct as opposed to dishonesty and hardly compares to the sleazy goings-on in Obama's past that suggest involvement in corruption and crime, as well as communist leanings.

I'm not a big fan of McCain, but would feel a lot sAfer with him and Palin than I would with Obama at the helm. At least she is not afraid to expose those whom she knows to be corrupt. There's no chance of that happening with an Obama-led administration.

Obamanation - Abomination. Now that really IS a synonym.

I don't understand you Obama people.

You keep saying Obama was only 5 years old when Ayers was active in the Weather Underground and that it is ridiculous to try and connect Obama with the events of almost 40 years ago.

Yet, records shows that connections between Obama and Ayers have actively continued since Obama launched his political career in Ayers living room in 1995.

Obama and Ayers served together on the Woods Fund board for three years, beginning in 1999, the year Obama joined it.

Ayers, who has no remorse as a domestic terrorist, regrets that he did not do more.

I don't want my next President to be friends and associates with people that hate America.

Why do you?

Marie G Ebert,

I am certainly glad you are not teaching my children. Your letter was so badly written.

i.e.

"I found Libyans to be gracious, loving, kind and extraordinary to Americans in so many ways."

Extraordinary what? And canyou judge the population of a country on the few you happen to meet?

"As a teacher, my Libyan students excelled."

That means your students excelled as a teacher, which doesn't make sense, and isn't what you meant to say.

Next time you feel compelled to write a LTTE, think syntax, syntax, syntax. Otherwise, you just make your self look silly, given your occupation.

"An Iraqi supposedly gave the money to Rezko to by the lot. The federal attorney who indicted Rezko, cancelled Rezko's bond when he heard about the money going to Rezko because he felt he could be a flight risk.
Indicted and facing many years in jail and his wife invests in a vacant lot with money they don't have and payments they can't make.
Looks like there were many "boneheads" as Barry described them, in this transaction.
But Canuck says there is nothing to this transaction that could be unethical, even for a person running for president."

posted by ChiDem today #66

so what is it ChiDem...they didn't have the money..... or they borrowed it ..or it was given them by their Iraqi partner????/

just because you say THE OPTICS don't look right you ASS/U/ME there was some corruption

even your right wing Huffington Post says there is no proof of any wrong doing...but like you ends the story saying....."what did Rezko expect from this?"

the Rezko's sold the lot for a PROFIT a year or so later...if they took a loss you may have had a point

The Republican LAMENT! If we only had Joe McCarthy now to "weed out" all those Obama "communists", we'd show America. Unfortunately Joe is dead, just like Spiro Agnew, GOD rest their "souls". There is still Ken Starr who can come to the "rescue". Man what he did to Clinton is so "wonderful" for GOP psyche, it will be a dose of "inspirational medicine" for Gonefishin, Rejoice, DM, Knital and all our "circle of friends". I hope Ken can get away from the asylum. Hope springs eternal.

Obama promotes his economic plan in Martinsville

"Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama opened up a campaign swing through Virginia today by visiting the state's most economially beleaguered city, Martinsville, to promote his economic agenda. "We've got to recognize we can't do things the way we've been doing them over the last eight years," Obama told a hand-picked crowd of 300 people at Patrick Henry Community College. Obama said the country needs to invest more money in roads, rail and broadband to help communities like Martinsville and surrounding Henry County. "We can't always stop companies from moving but we sure as heck don't have to give them incentives to move," he said. "We don't have to give them tax breaks to move."

There you have it. Obama's economic plan explained to a hand-picked audience that did not demand specifics.

I like this statement: "We don't have to give them tax breaks to move."

That's right Hussein. You are going to take away all corporate tax breaks. That economic policy will sure keep the already overy taxed businesses on sound footing.

Tax business to death.

Nationalize it.

Let the government run it.

Socialism

The Obana economic plan.

This from the official Obama web-site.

http://www.barackobama.com/2008/08/20...

Well, the proof is in the pudding. Where are the charges of illegality of anything against Obama?

If you can't come forward with any, then shut up!!!

As far as the Students for Democratic Action, I think when those groups demonstrate in China, we call them Freedom Fighters, with China denying their right of free speech.

I didn't know free speech was not allowed here, but I guess it is.

I didn't demonstate, but I hailed those young people who did against a totally lied about and what must have been illegal war. What right did we have to do what we did? Just because we heard the big fear of the Domino Effect. Whoooo! Scarey!!!!

I suppose I'm on you Right Wingers' list of Marxists because I read parts of the Communist Manifesto and learned about the Russian Revolution and the rise of Communism. Oh, and I've also read a little about Cuba.

But, did my learning about them make me one of them? No!!!! How do you know you like or don't like something if you don't learn about it.

So, being Obama is intelligent and a student, of course, he read about those things. How else does one know anything?

As for his visit to Pakistan as a very young man,- good. He must have learned something about that country too. That's one big plus.

Canuck, don't pay attention to those Right Wing Nut Cases. They don't like anyone but themselves. Anyway, we like you, those of us who haven't gone looney bin.

Wow Junior,
You're disappointing me. We don't always see eye to eye, but I didn't think you bought into the tabloid stuff from the Daily Kos. I don't believe people with two brain cells seriously buy into the radical right-wingers slanted blogs, so why do you give credence to a simple-minded, transparently obvious left-wing blog?
Citing such ridiculous material as fact will not garner support from the undecideds including me.
Grandma

#70 MikeM Oh, now I get it, the poor did best when the GOP "controlled" congress during the Clinton years, and they did "even better" when Bush was president with a GOP congress. Wow, that's a great "twist and read" of figures. And you guys (Republicans) want to get rid of the IRS? They are on your side. Besides taking those numbers utilizing percentage ratios into account, a flawed scenario arises that negates its authenticity. Mark Twain again: "Big lies, fibs, and statistics". Forgive the paraphrase.

But I like strict interpretation. Bush was the president when 9/11 occurred, ergo, he is totally responsible and "guilty" for the crimes committed against the country.

#69 BigG is correct about older women have a greater chance of giving birth to a Downs Syndrome child.........in fact the statistics are 1 in 40....

I know this because my granddaughter is a teacher for children with special needs and has tutored a Downs Syndrome child for five years

She has one more semester to get her masters in EEC/Special Needs

BTW...the odds of a 20 year old giving birth to a Downs Syndrome are 1 in 800 to 1,000

Four years ago, an honor guard of a dozen mates from Kerry's Vietnam days surrounded him on the podium attesting to his character and readiness to lead.

Such personal testimonials are the norm.

The roster of fellow soldiers or fellow senators who could from personal experience vouch for John McCain is rather long and could include Russ Feingold and Edward Kennedy, whom McCain worked closely with as a SEnator.

Where were Barry' friends, associates, mentors, lawyers, business partners??

Were Allison Davis, Tony Rezko, Billy Ayres, Mike Kolnsky, Carl Davidson (who organized the event where Barry gave his anti-war speech) and other associates "unavailable". I know all of them were not in charm school (Chicago term for politicians in jail). Heck, Richey Daley was there. How about his white grandma on a TV feed from Hawaii. Doesn't she have something good to say about him????

We don't know much about Barry, and what we do know is not good. Everything we know is speculation. Most don't want to speculate if he is good, bad evil, honest. dishonest, a racist, communist, socialist, a boy scout.

The ONLY thing we know for sure is he plays a good game of basketball ............. but so does Sarah Palin .......... and she is not afraid to point out the people fouling, even if they are on her team.

It is a shame Barry is ashamed of his friends, associates and business partners. He was even ashamed of Michelle who finally got her "act" in order with a teleprompter.

It's time you Neo Cons stop banging on nonsense. McCain's got plenty of past to bang on too, you know.

What I want to know now is what they will do to save this country. What have they learned from the past to give them a good perspective on what we should do in the situation we're in?

I imagine we all know how years often change our perspective. Sometimes we swing more right, then sometimes we swing more left. What we assess is what is needed for the country at any particular time.

When the pendulum swings too far one way or the other, we have to bring it back.

Right now, Obama has the better answers. Right now he is the most logical and rational candidate we have.

McCain is stuck. Stuck in the past. Stuck in Viet Nam. He's a rigid old man, ready to fight more wars because he still sees himself as a soldier. But, what we need is a stateman. A Soldier's job is to fight. A Statesman's job is to know when to fight.

BTW. I am impressed and want to thank all of you anti Neo Con, Bush/McCain bloggers. We're so lucky to have you.

CNN announcement one hour ago:

Palin confirms daughter's pregnancy

By Steve Holland
Monday, 1 September 2008

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The Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has announced that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

Bristol Palin, one of Palin's five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said.

"We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us," the Palins' statement said.

"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support," the Palins said.

The Palins asked the news media to respect the young couple's privacy."

Well, I hadn't heard that rumor about Palin's baby. If it were true, at least she would be guilty of only lying and not of being an extremely irresponsible mother herself.

I really don't know why any woman who loves her daughters would want someone who would take their rights away even near the presidency.

I know much of my protection for "Choice" has to do with all the young women coming after me. I want them to be protected and not thrown back into the dark ages, prior to Roe v Wade.

What galls me about you Right Wingers is you aren't happy having you're own right of choice, you want to take away others'.

You are one big dangerous, dictatorial bunch, invading people's personal lives to force on them what you think. Depriving them of their own right of privacy and decisions for their own bodies.

You do this when one is dying, and you do it to women when they find themselves in an unwanted pregnancy for whatever the reason.

Any woman who votes for Sarah Palin is betraying women, driving them back into ownership by the government, threatening doctors who treat pregnant women, making pregnant women in the eagle eyes of government. That's big, big government, and too much like the Taliban treats its women.

Rejoice...you have no creditability left on this forum...you are racist...you tell half truths...and you outright lie...as you have above.....last I looked Obama was not in the construction business

talk about spin and dance...you would give Fred Astaire a run for his money

The Alaska Report regarding Palin's baby born in April:

"Governor Sarah Palin and her husband Todd welcomed the arrival of their fifth child this morning. The Palins were thankful that the Governor's labor began yesterday while she was in Texas at the Governor's Energy Conference where she gave the keynote luncheon address, but let up enough for her to travel on Alaska Airlines back to Alaska in time to deliver her second son."

She was 8 months pregnant, due to deliver in May.

What I wonder is, why would a woman 8 months and in labor take a plane back to Alaska from Texas? Why didn't she check into a hospital in Texas? That's pretty risky. Or, maybe she had her reasons for flying back home and not entering a hospital in Texas. What would they be? And, isn't that totally irresponsible? Hummm.

And, what was a woman that close to birth doing flying around the country when usually Doctors say you can't fly? Also, The paper said in March that Palin just anounced her pregnancy. Wow, no one knew or noticed this woman in a high position was seven months pregnant? And she's a trim woman. Hummmmm.

I remember when young girls got pregnant when I was young, they'd just disappear for a while and no one would know. Then when the baby was born it was either adopted out or taken in like it was her mother's.

Well, if the baby isn't hers it will come out. I suppose then, it will be that if it's true, they had to lie to protect the daughter.

But what does this say about her parenting? And who would be the father of a 13 or 14 year old girl? And now also a 17 year old daughter pregnant five months.

I think she needs to stay home and take care of those children. She has another daughter 7 years old coming up.

So much for her being pro life as pro life can be.

But in all of Palin's background, the worst for the country is her complete lack of foreign policy knowledge. She herself admits she hasn't really focussed on it. Hasn't thought much about it.

So we have a loony bird, trigger happy hawk like McCain running for president with a V. P. candidate who knows nothing about politics outside of Gov. for less than 2 years of the State of Alaska, population about the size of one district in Florida. Help!!!

Obama/Biden all the way to the White House.

Well, before you hit on Obama's trying to get funds for housing in poor districts and things not working so well, try looking at Bush/Cheney's loss of billions and billions to rebuild Iraq. What Obama tried to do for poor people at least was done sincerely. What Bush/Cheney did was throw away billions for their greed while lining the pockets of their cronies.

The whole Iraq thing was a lie, and that lie not only will cost us close to 3 trillion dollars, that lie cost thousands of lives and many more injuries for life.

So, don't you dare mention something Obama tried to do for poor people costing us some money. It was nothing, you hear nothing, compared to Bush's terrible disaster in Iraq. And, Obama's trying to help didn't cost thousands of lives and injuries to go with it.

You Right Wingers make me Sick. You don't know a darn thing. What I wonder is how you stay so stupid.

#92 by Rejoice......show me where Obama "provided" the money to rehab the housing.....

you base fact on innuendos and hearsay

all your right wing sites say he was a junior lawyer at the law firm at that time and records show he worked five hours...in six years...on that project

if I am wrong...show me but based on your undocumented accusations that is all I can find

Re: #82 MikeM: You must be a "math Major"????

Obviously you can't count or evaluate figures critically and in context. Incidentally, there seems to be some question whether those figures are from the IRS as per info on this blog.

It appears your "powers" of comprehension are far more deteriorated than equating fact to "gibberish".

Not to change the subject, but how are you "conservatives" going to reconcile "Mother Goose Palin? "Do as I say, not as I do" seems to be appropriately obvious here as evidence of some parental "guidance" within the Palin family, a "conservative" family. "mommy" missed a few sessions with Bristol to say the least, or was that the fault of the "corrupt, inadequate" education system in Alaska? Her teachers should have told Bristol to keep her legs crossed until she got married! "Right"? Shame on your ilk and you deserve everything you get after your party's shameful degredation of the Clinton marriage and it's weakness. There is a God, and he apparently doesn't like hypocrisy.

RE: #88 &#97 Rejoice, you have to get off of those "loony" Right Wing Conservative Blogs and start watching some network TV. About accomplishments, Obama's achievements are quite apparent and well documented down to the basic resume. The Republican spin machine has been using the "spin" technique whole heartedly with their "mother of the Year" Sarah Palin.

It is ridiculous to compare a family like the Obamas with the likes of McCain, a divorcee (til death do we part) and the Palins (we are 100% behind our daughter "who made a ""mistake"")and her actions. As a father of 5, I can't sympathize with her shortcomings as a parent who has an agenda that seems to be more self serving given the facts.

Besides that, is her 80% approval rating got anything to do with the $1,200 rebate from oil the Alaskans are getting? Talk about buying votes! GOP = Enemies of society!

Pro Life won't be satisfied until every sperm makes its mark, no matter what the consequences or results. Sarah Palin's "family philosophy" demonstrates that "axiom" to the fullest. We are about to embark on the "great crusade" to "rescue" McCain and the GOP with the injection of a "catalyst" that has little to do with the real problems in America today. What a "windfall". McCain says he knew about the Palin situation before announcing the selection. He must have consulted Karl Rove. It sounds and has the "filthy" marks of dirty "Bushie" politics. Remember South Carolina and McCain's "love child"? Phew!!!

Question for Sarah Palin during the Veep debate:

What is your attitude regarding pre-marital sex?

truthmatters,

Even though I don't always agree with what you say, you usually write intelligently. However, your post #98 reads like the rantings of someone who is starting to lose it.

To compare the war in Iraq to Obama's failed housing project is just beyond ridiculous. How can you know what Obama would have done had he been president prior to the Iraq invasion? We know NOW that lies were told about WMDs, but we didn't know then, and there is some evidence emerging that they existed and were moved. A decision had to be made - what was the right decision without the benefit of hindsight?

"You Right Wingers make me Sick. You don't know a darn thing. What I wonder is how you stay so stupid."

This sweeping generalization is way below your usual standard of presenting a rational argument.

The sun's out. Perhaps you need some fresh air.

What a country!!!

Millions of people will get a chance to vote for a "COMMUNITY ORGANIZER" with dubious ASSOCIATES/FRIENDS for the past twenty years Ayers...Rev Wrong...Farakon...Rezko...and on and on. Oh I forgot, less than three years in the US Senate and most of that time he has been running for president.

If that describes a person who can "CHANGE" and shake up Washington, pass the kool aide for everyone to drink!

The only way to affect change is to change our procedures. Term limits...line item veto...bills that stand alone with no attachments...immediate accountabilty (there's got to be technology to accomplish this)...abolish both houses when public opinion has no faith in their abilities to continue running the country's business...no more "pork" to name a few.

Instead of attacking/expressing all your thoughts to each other and accomplish nothing on a daily basis, write, call, fax, write and e-mail
your elected officals.

GROW UP YA'LL!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH REGARDLESS OF YOUR PARTY AFFILIATION!

Big G, it's pretty hard not to get upset when I think about what this adminstration has done to us, to our military, our soldiers, to Iraq and on.

No, not everyone thought there were WMD's in Iraq before we invaded. The UN Weapons inspectors didn't think there were. At least they hadn't found any. Even the CIA, I listened to some of the hearings, did any of you also? Even the CIA didn't say confidently and for sure there were WMD's They had umpteen caveats and diminishers before every statement about weapons.

And, even if many didn't know then, we know, or should know now; we were lied to. More comes out, such as their shoving aside Joe Wilson's report after being sent by the CIA to Niger to see if Saddam was trying to get Yellow Cake Uranium. Wilson's report given to them, before Bush stood before us and lied in January that Saddam was seeking Yellow Cake when he had to the report that this wasn't true in his hands.

I don't know about any of you, but I hate being lied to about such important and vital things.

And what was Saddam accused of at his trial? He was accused of killing people that were trying to kill him. Seems to me that's self defense.

Scam, scam, scam and lies written all over the Iraq misadventure. And the Right Wingers on this blog have the gall to say one of Obama's programs to try to help poor people flopped because of the poor building structures. Yes, that makes me mad.

You see, Big G., I'm human.

Also, Sarah Palin was previously full fledged for that Bridge to Nowhere until the House denounced it as pork. So, Flip, Flop.

Also, Democrats have said some good things about McCain, but then that was the other McCain, the Dr. Jekyll McCain. But now, flip flop, he's Mr. Hyde, and it's Mr. Hyde we'll be voting on.

RE#110 Watch out Another POV: Bringing up the Keating fiasco from McCain's past is strictly out of the REpublican psychopaths' understanding on this forum as the likes of Rejoi