Beetle agrees w/ RG and JYD

I found how the Democrats handled recycling to be a good cause. Impressive.

I didn't understand the part of...

"About 240 members of the delegation paid, or the party paid for them, $7.50 to purchase credits to offset the roughly one ton of carbon dioxide pollution that travel to, from and around the convention is reported to produce."

...Credits? Oh well, if it helped decrease carbon dioxide pollution, how can that be a bad thing?

You can tell which Party is more concerned with the environment. I'm proud to be a liberal.

Of course the Democrats had better music, too many entertainers are telling McCain to stop using their music in his ads and at his rallies. Some have even filed copyright infringement suits.

No it didn't change my mind, it solidified it.

some things shouldn't be recycled,..like GOPs

I like how the article just ends with the democrats recylcing. He doesent mention any of the diffrences between the parties on the war,energy, or the economy. The only thing about the republicans he mentions are the buses and bad music. The title of this article should be changed to "The Dem. Convention Was Green"

"Did this story change any minds out there"?

Yes. Now I know that I won't bother reading any more of BB's ramblings.

Weeks and weeks ago, I read a Doonesbury cartoon about the RNC trying to rent the Metrodome after a Viking game to try and get a huge crowd for McCain's speech.

The punchline of the strip was, "the Vikings don't do benefits".

I know this is republican territory, but most Americans are tired of the corruption that the people in power have brought. A simple example is the 10 million earmarked for Coconut Road.

We are a corrupt society.

Too bad the Democratic Party recycled the American Flags used at their convention, 12000 of them, in trash bags next to garbage dumpsters. Speaks highly of their respect and value of old glory and the United States of America. What a shame!!!

Reductio ad absurdum.

The difference between Obama and McCain.

Obama believes he can rely on "Our Partners" in Europe to talk to a terrorist country Iran, who's leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a puppet who's strings are being pulled by the most radical Islamic Shiite, who state publicly they must "pave the path for the glorious reappearance of Imam Mahdi" who is, according to Shiites, the 12th Imam, who disappeared as a child in the year 941. When he returns, they believe, he will reign on earth for seven years, before bringing about a final judgment and the end of the world. They believe and openly state that they must first eliminate Israel and other "satins" from the earth to allow for Mahdi's return. They intend to accomplish this with the ultimate weapons, nuclear weapons. As it is well known, they are building uranium enrichment plants to build nuclear weapons with parts and assistance from Russia.

Again as I stated above, Obama intends to rely on his partners from Europe to talk through this problem. These would be the same partners who just this past week failed to hold Russia responsible for not adhering to Russia's obligations outline in the Russia Georgia ceasefire agreement negotiated by France's Sarkozy, after Russia invaded Georgia, a sovereign nation. Obama should apply the lessons he learned in Chicago which positioned him as the Democratic Presidential Nominee, "follow the money". Europe needs Russia's natural gas or their economies will no longer exist, and as such, Europe, "Obama's Partners", are not going to talk to anyone or do anything against the interests of Russia.

McCain was the only person who spoke and has a clear understanding of this issue when, during his party's acceptance speech in St. Paul he stated, "Russia is controlled by corrupt leaders within and want to re-establish, using their newly found oil and natural gas wealth, their forced dominance throughout the former Soviet territories and more". This is a fact, supported by the countries who were the former Soviet block countries, those countries who were prisoners of the Soviet Union, all of whom are begging for the U.S. Missile Defense System to be installed within their borders because they know what is coming.

McCain gets it and Obama does not. Our economy will go through is gyrations for as long as our country exists, without much, if any, influence from our government. The most important issue of this election and all elections for the President of the United States is our safety, security and free trade. The intended role of the President, as framed by the people who created our government in the 1700's.

GO BARRACUDA!!!

"Cynics say there’s no difference between the two major political parties."

Nope, that is a FACT!!

Two weeks at conventions and this is the column, the NDN should ask Batten for their money back.

Re post #17 - "Two weeks at conventions and this is the column; the NDN should ask Batten for their money back."

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ROTFLMAO! :)

So that's what that bad smell was two weeks ago coming from CO.
I'd like to see Obama get elected: Minority leader of the Senate.

You stupid republicans don't want to pay the government anything, but you will demand our country continue the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. You demand our country provide strong education to our children. You demand our government to provide some basic services to us.

Where the hell do you expect the govt to get the money for those programs? You idiots don't want to pay for anything but you expect everything.

We are now billions of dollars in debt, including a huge loan from China, that is going to require a payoff at some point.

You stupid selfish republicans want to pass the debt along to your children just so you can have an extra couple of pennies in your wallet. You supported the blasted war, now pay for it!!!

Republicans make me want to puke. They are so hypocritical and are too stupid to realize they vote for the very politicians that make like more difficult for them.

Open a book, read the facts, educate yourself!!

simple, middle-class white guy for Obama!!

Okay, I want to be more polite than Carrot, but I have to take issue about Palin. Let's get over this idea that she is being "smeared." She is being scrutinized just like every other candidate that runs, and some of her positions and decisions are being questioned. That's what we do in this country. I'm not talking about the fact that she is submitting her pregnant teenager and her special needs baby to the glare of the campaign press. That's her decision.

I do object to her bragging that she lowered taxes for her town when all she really did was get the Federal government to pay for things. Wasilla has one of highest federal tax percentages per capita in the nation. Things that our local governments pay for, Sarah has gotten from the great washington pork barrel. She supported the bridge to nowhere until it became a public relations nightmare, then she said "no thanks," but she still kept $230 millions dollars of the money. That's not conservative management. I also object to her attempt to fire the Wasilla Librarian because she would not ban the books Sarah deemed objectionable. I object to her stand on abortion, even in the case of incest or rape. I question her doubt of global warming. I object to her pushing pipelines through the Alaskan wilderness as primary answer to our energy issues.

I am female and a former "soccer mom." I'm still a thinking human being and Sarah Palin is not the person I want as second-in-command of the most powerful nation on earth when the first-in-command is 72 years old with a history of cancer.

I object to McCain's shoot-from-the-hip decision to placate the ultra conservatives when he really wanted Joe Lieberman. McCain sold out, and I question his judgment.

In my view, Obama is not the ultra liberal that McCain's people would like us to think he is. He believes in compromise and giving the other side common courtesy. And please don't give me the garbage that terrorists don't deserve human rights. Many of the people we have imprisoned are not terrorists, and we have not proven the difference. We are supposed to be a nation that supports human rights. How can we preach to any other nation about human rights when we approve torture. If that makes me a commie pinko liberal, then so are all of the foundings fathers. They had their brand of terrorists, too, but they stood up and said that we were going to be different. If we don't do the right thing, we have lost our collective soul, and we have no right to assume a leadership role in the world.

#17: nice comment kneejerk. I totally agree.

#11 - McBush got four things wrong.
1. Viet Nam
2. Iraq
3. Leaving his wife and kids for a younger (and richer) woman.
4. Picking a VP without vetting her.

This is judgement that Americans cannot afford to trust.

Obama's still gonna

WIN THIS!

I can feel it!

Palin gave the middle name "VAN" Palin to her kid because she wanted the name to sound like VAN HALEN!

Maybe she'll request music from Van Halen during her and McCain's acceptance speech then. :-)

Beet's still laughing at his V.P. pick

Would you....

Go along 'for the ride' if an airline captain had 143 days of ground school...?

Sail with ship commander with 143 days of school ...?

Go to a doctor with 143 days of med school .... ?

Hire an attorney with 143 days of law school ...?

Go to a dentist with 143 days of dental school ......????

Vote for a guy to be Commander In Chief of our Country with 143 days in the Senate ...? After 143 days of work experience, Obama believes he is ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan.

From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.

Where in the heck is this country going ... nuts?
143 days -- I keep leftovers in my refrigerator longer than that.

#34: I would love to see Obama, if he loses, try to run again for the Senate. At least ONE competitor could bring that up and have a field day with it. 143 days in office and already running for President...kinda says something about how important his Senate position was to him.

#39: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro and many others "motivated" and "inspired" people too.

I read your post to suggest that "motivating" and "inspiring" somehow automatically meant something good. He may lead millions, but where he leads them too isn't automatically good.

Some of the "nanny state" socialism he (and many others in the Democrat party) support are somewhat reminisent of the "collective" ideas of Hitler/Stalin/etc. Individuals must bow to the "collective good".

Liberals could do some brushing up on what made America great. The spirit of individuality...the freedom to succeed (and sometimes fail) by one's own effort. Not a socialist state that thinks it knows better how people should live their lives.

I see we've resorted to name calling now CTL, cute. Matches the infancy of your candidate.

Obama is a fraud and should not even be on the ticket.Looks like he was born in Kenya as his mother could not get a flight from there back to Hawaii then due to being in labor or very close to delivering (airline wouldn't allow it). He has yet to produce an original birth cert. even if that is not the case he loses eligibilty when his mom remarried in Indonesia as they didnt do what they were supposed to do when they came back, need to give some sort of oath.Even if that's not the case he went to Afghanistan in 1980 when US citizens weren't allowed and used and Indonisian passport, and also stated relgious affiliation as being muslim. Obama got to the Senate when he got the likely winner and toughest opponent off the ballot on a technicality (cant remember her name)Wouldn't it be ironic if the same thing happen to him (getting bounced). There is a lawsuit by a democratic atty. and politician in process as we speak to hold Obama to the constitution in regards to being eligible to run for pres. This will come out as soon as the time is right. You can go to obamacrimes.com for more info and see the lawsuit and supporting evidence. I am not making this stuff up. Obama was not properly vetted. On the issues:
1- Economy, George Bush has nothing to do with the current siuation. Loose lending and major fraud in the mortgage industry has kept the economy for several years thru refinancing and flipping. Take away the job losses due to the hosing halt ie mortgage brokers, title co.'s builders, roofers plumbers, electriucans etc. and the unemployment rate would be very low. The other major factor is the price of gas which Obama wants to keep high by not allowing us to drill for our own resourcesif he did we would be back to $2 gall. price rather quickly. (oil has been deopping lately due to lower demand meanin ample supply). Raising taxes on the over 200k crowd and business and coporations will only make price of goods and services to increase and result in fewer jobs. ie common sense.
2- healthcare Obama wants to give free govt. run health care to "47 million people of which close to 20 million of the 47 million uninsured are illegals. The american people do not want health care rean by the govt. ie: medicaid soc. security and the restaraunt on the hill that lost 19 million $ in 18 years stay out of health care wash.
3-Education, throwing more money at the current system will not work we need more options ie: charter and private scool options. If you want to go to college all you have to do is apply your self in high school and you will get the scholarship. My son got 100% bright futures and the bar isn't that high. Obama is not alchanger or leader he will run us further into the ground and without a doubt is socialist leaning. Pardon my grammar and spelling.

Personally I don't feel "fooled" by Bush. I knew he had conservative policies (tax cuts, stronger military, etc.) but questionable at fitting the description of "conservative". A conservative would not have supported the Medicare Part D effort for one thing.

NDN journalism at its best. Utterly vacuous!
B. Batten...Collier County's finest.

RGreer, you should check things out more thoroughly before you cite them as facts. Anyone born on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/...

And you should check out some of your economic claims.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote20...

Stop getting all of your research from emails.

having been a single mother, the difference between Republicans and Democrats is work. if you want to earn a pay check that comes with benefits like medical insurance, you go to a Republican. they are going to expect you to show up on time, clean and ready to work. if you wait for someone to take care of you (ie, a check in the mail), then you are a Democrat. of course, since i was a mother, that also made me a Republican. a Democrat would have had an abortion.